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Re: Mike Dean AFC Bournemouth v Brighton
DIR By: ARF
Date: December 28, 2018, 3:41 pm
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--- Quote from: Readingfan link ---
>
> Would this fall under the grounds of mistaken identity or just
thinking a player had committed a foul when he hadn't? There
seems a slight distinction between the two with the latter
happening quite frequently.
>
> If the referee sees a shirt pull which is from Player X and he
mistakenly cautions Player Y then that is obviously mistaken
identity.
>
> If the referee misses the shirt pull from Player X though but
thinks Player Y makes a body check immediately after, even if he
actually didn't, and cautions Player Y for that then that seems
a slightly different issue.
>
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Therein lies the issue - without confirmation from MD/PGMOL/The
FA, we may never know!
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Re: Mike Dean AFC Bournemouth v Brighton
DIR By: Acme Thunderer
Date: December 29, 2018, 5:46 am
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I hear what you are saying readingfan, but I don't think there
is any doubt that this is a case of mistaken identity. Seeing
the way Mike Dean performs, I am sure that if (for example) he
had cautioned Dunk for dissent or a subsequent foul, he would
have made it plain to the crowd, the 4O, the managers.... and in
all probability, the FA or PL or PGMOL would have confirmed this
after the match. It is not being told that makes me think the FA
realise there is a problem in this case. And, although I need
perhaps to be careful how I word this, I suggest that a look at
pics of Dunk and Bissouma will confirm that the hand which
shoved the Arsenal player in the back leading to the first
caution was definitely not Dunk's. This needs to be looked at by
the FA pdq. I will say no more.
#Post#: 3565--------------------------------------------------
Re: Mike Dean AFC Bournemouth v Brighton
DIR By: rustyref
Date: December 29, 2018, 6:09 am
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I suspect that Mike Dean thought that Dunk has tripped him, and
therein lies the problem. Yes it is wrong, but had Bissouma not
been there and he still wrongly thought that Dunk had tripped
the opponent then the caution wouldn't be rescinded there.
#Post#: 3566--------------------------------------------------
Re: Mike Dean AFC Bournemouth v Brighton
DIR By: nemesis
Date: December 29, 2018, 7:12 am
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--- Quote from: rustyref link ---
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> I suspect that Mike Dean thought that Dunk has tripped him,
and therein lies the problem. Yes it is wrong, but had Bissouma
not been there and he still wrongly thought that Dunk had
tripped the opponent then the caution wouldn't be rescinded
there.
>
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.... which clearly illustrates that the appeals process is not
fit for purpose.
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Re: Mike Dean AFC Bournemouth v Brighton
DIR By: Readingfan
Date: December 29, 2018, 10:37 am
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--- Quote from: rustyref link ---
>
> I suspect that Mike Dean thought that Dunk has tripped him,
and therein lies the problem. Yes it is wrong, but had Bissouma
not been there and he still wrongly thought that Dunk had
tripped the opponent then the caution wouldn't be rescinded
there.
>
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Exactly - that was what I was trying to get at.
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Re: Mike Dean AFC Bournemouth v Brighton
DIR By: Readingfan
Date: December 29, 2018, 10:38 am
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--- Quote from: Acme Thunderer link ---
>
> I hear what you are saying readingfan, but I don't think there
is any doubt that this is a case of mistaken identity. Seeing
the way Mike Dean performs, I am sure that if (for example) he
had cautioned Dunk for dissent or a subsequent foul, he would
have made it plain to the crowd, the 4O, the managers.... and in
all probability, the FA or PL or PGMOL would have confirmed this
after the match. It is not being told that makes me think the FA
realise there is a problem in this case. And, although I need
perhaps to be careful how I word this, I suggest that a look at
pics of Dunk and Bissouma will confirm that the hand which
shoved the Arsenal player in the back leading to the first
caution was definitely not Dunk's. This needs to be looked at by
the FA pdq. I will say no more.
>
--- End Quote ---
Arsenal player? It's mistaken identity all round! ;)
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Re: Mike Dean AFC Bournemouth v Brighton
DIR By: bmb
Date: December 29, 2018, 11:24 am
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--- Quote from: Readingfan link ---
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> Arsenal player? It's mistaken identity all round! ;)
>
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Well obviously if an Arsenal player was booked in AFCB V BHAFC
it would be rather odd to say the least... [emoji56]
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Re: Mike Dean AFC Bournemouth v Brighton
DIR By: Acme Thunderer
Date: December 29, 2018, 1:35 pm
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Whoops, senior moment, I was thinking of Brighton v Arsenal, and
must still be feeling the effects of the festive season. Cheers!
;D
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