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D COOTE - West Ham v AFCB
DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
Date: October 24, 2022, 2:48 pm
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What is a handball these days?
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Re: D COOTE - West Ham v AFCB
DIR By: RefMatt
Date: October 24, 2022, 2:52 pm
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I know that his hands are not outside the body line, but surely
if the play has deliberately moved his hands to the ball then
this should be disallowed. A shocker from Mike Dean (what a
surprise!!!) on VAR.
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Re: D COOTE - West Ham v AFCB
DIR By: ServiceRef
Date: October 24, 2022, 2:56 pm
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For me, that was a definite handball by the West Ham player in
the build up, that the referee should be picking up real time;
he used his hand to move the ball forward. Once it’s gone to VAR
they wouldn’t bring it back as it wasn’t the player who scored.
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Re: D COOTE - West Ham v AFCB
DIR By: jacksamuel21
Date: October 24, 2022, 3:12 pm
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Another poor decision from (No Surprise) Mike Dean again on VAR.
Yet again, how many shockers from him this season.
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Re: D COOTE - West Ham v AFCB
DIR By: ajb95
Date: October 24, 2022, 3:26 pm
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Coote doesn't even have the bottle to bin off the Bournemouth
manager. He would know where the stands were if it was me; he'd
be warming them up in the 2nd half!
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Re: D COOTE - West Ham v AFCB
DIR By: Failed Ref
Date: October 24, 2022, 3:27 pm
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Was it Mahrez who had a goal disallowed for handball. The ball
then did not directly go into goal. Here we decide the issue is
did he handle the ball in the build up as the ball did not go
directly into goal. His hands were in a natural position so did
he shovel the ball towards goal using his hands or turn his
upper body to chest it in? I will let others decide but handball
law is farcical or at least its interpretation.
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Re: D COOTE - West Ham v AFCB
DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
Date: October 24, 2022, 3:53 pm
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I ask again…. What is a handball these days?
I’m completely baffled now after Big Brother comes in and gives
a spot kick.
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Re: D COOTE - West Ham v AFCB
DIR By: Ref95
Date: October 24, 2022, 4:03 pm
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Not a clue what handball is anymore. AFCB have every right to
feel hard done by. Surely it’s either both or neither, in terms
of the big decisions in this game.
It does seem we are having a run of penalties given for handball
where a player sliding in to block the ball, has his hands in a
natural position for that specific movement and is penalised.
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Re: D COOTE - West Ham v AFCB
DIR By: rustyref
Date: October 24, 2022, 4:06 pm
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On the first one it can only be disallowed if deemed to be
intentional, there's no possible way it could be said it
immediately led to a goal so can't be penalised if accidental.
Personally I don't think it was intentional, rather as he turns
his body his arms, which are very low, just strike the ball.
For the second one there is no doubt whatsoever, the look on
Zemura's face immediately after said it all, he 100% knew he had
given a penalty away even though it hadn't immediately been
given. His arm was way out from his body, no way are you
getting away with that with VAR in use.
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Re: D COOTE - West Ham v AFCB
DIR By: Ashington46
Date: October 24, 2022, 4:08 pm
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--- Quote from: TheThingFromLewes link ---
>
> I ask again…. What is a handball these days?
>
> I’m completely baffled now after Big Brother comes in
and gives a spot kick.
>
--- End Quote ---
It just gets worse with every game in the PL.
THe only answer is that players should strap their arms to their
sides because IFAB et al would consider that a natural position.
It would be fun to see players running with no aid to balance,
having difficulty getting up when they fall over, however, it
would alleviate all debate. Have these people ever played the
game?
I saw Kieran Trippier have a penalty awarded against him on 17
November 2012 at Burnley when he was running across goal with
his hands by his side and the ball hit him. A penalty was
awarded and Kieran was sent off in the 15th minute by Bobby
Madley. That penalty won the game for Charlton.
I am totally past baffled!.
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