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Re: Headlines
DIR By: ajb95
Date: October 19, 2022, 11:45 am
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> I'll get your coat !
> Seriously though it's a very valid point you make. I have
always thought that to refer to someone's title in the language
of their nationality was an act of courtesy.
>
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As we all should do but seems we have lost that polite courtesy,
and "everyone" is now on a first name basis with people they've
never met
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Re: Headlines
DIR By: rustyref
Date: October 19, 2022, 12:07 pm
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> [quote author=Whistleblower link=topic=4081.msg53943#msg53943
date=1666194122]
> I'll get your coat !
> Seriously though it's a very valid point you make. I have
always thought that to refer to someone's title in the language
of their nationality was an act of courtesy.
>
--- End Quote ---
As we all should do but seems we have lost that polite courtesy,
and "everyone" is now on a first name basis with people they've
never met
[/quote]
Pretty sure that is just called society moving on. Not a lot
different to people now going to work in jeans and trainers at
the same companies that they would have had to be suited and
booted 20 to 30 years ago. When I first joined football
committees I found having to refer to people as Mr Smith, and Mr
Chairman, rather than by their first name, absolutely ridiculous
and outdated, and made the point that they will never attract
younger members unless they modernise. Thankfully that has now
happened, and consequently the average age of committees has
come down massively.
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Re: Headlines
DIR By: Whistleblower
Date: October 19, 2022, 12:15 pm
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I agree when it comes to colleagues but I remain uncomfortable
about using just a given name for someone whom I do not know and
have not met.
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Re: Headlines
DIR By: Whistleblower
Date: October 19, 2022, 12:19 pm
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At the Bar, Clerks, even incredibly senior ones are usually
called by their given name even by very junior barristers in
their first couple of years of Call. Just a tradition.
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Re: Headlines
DIR By: Ref Watcher
Date: October 20, 2022, 5:12 am
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The original point in this discussion was not whether someone
should be addressed by their given name rather than their title
and surname, interesting though that is. It was about whether
there was any reason that a German man should not be referred to
as Herr followed by their surname rather than Mr. I am afraid I
am none the wiser as to why the German title could be considered
unacceptable. I would certainly always prefer the title of the
person's own nationality rather than the English version.
On the wider point, I almost always use people's given names and
have done ever since I entered a working environment almost
forty years ago so it's not all that recent a change. Given the
offence which is taken by people being "mis-gendered" I can only
see the use of honorifics dying out completely. The one place I
don't use people's given names is on the occasions when I am
presiding officer in a polling station, something I have done
for many years (and which I suspect I may be doing again fairly
shortly!). I would never dream of addressing a member of the
public by their given name in that situation unless I knew them
personally.
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