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       Michael Oliver and Darren England - Arsenal v Liverpool
   DIR By: Irishref1985
       Date: October 9, 2022, 12:16 pm
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       Not a great day at the office for either Oliver or England.
       First Arsenal goal - looks like an offside in the build up.
       Liverpool denied a penalty for handball - haven’t a clue how VAR
       doesn’t give this when you see Oliver give a free kick for
       considerable less against Diaz a minute later.
       The Arsenal penalty - very very very soft.
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       Re: Michael Oliver and Darren England - Arsenal v Liverpool
   DIR By: jacksamuel21
       Date: October 9, 2022, 12:24 pm
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       Worst refereeing performance of the season. Edited out - I won't
       allow allegations of bias
       Diaz wrongly booked.
       Gomez/ Firmino wrongly booked.
       How Partey hasn't got booked.
       Stonewall handball penalty for liverpool not given.
       Martineli does to Trent what Royal did to him and play on.
       No lines drawn on the first arsenal goal which looks offside.
       Arsenal fans claim referees are against them?
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       Re: Michael Oliver and Darren England - Arsenal v Liverpool
   DIR By: ryan80
       Date: October 9, 2022, 12:34 pm
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       I am not a member of the Michael Oliver fan club which the
       majority of members subscribe to here.  However, I watched most
       of this and thought he did well.
       #Post#: 53460--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Michael Oliver and Darren England - Arsenal v Liverpool
   DIR By: jacksamuel21
       Date: October 9, 2022, 12:35 pm
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       How Xhaka isn't booked for his antics I don't know. Thats too
       incredibly soft penalties he has given in the last two games.
       Absolutely pathetic.
       Saka deliberately hand-balled the ball in an attempt to cheat
       and gets no yellow.
       Yet Gomez is booked for timewasting because Arteta asked him to
       Yet another big game ruined by a shocking performance from an
       official.
       What planet was Darren England on at Shockley park
       #Post#: 53464--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Michael Oliver and Darren England - Arsenal v Liverpool
   DIR By: Bielsa’s Bucket
       Date: October 9, 2022, 12:39 pm
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       --- Quote from: jacksamuel21 link ---
       >
       > How Xhaka isn't booked for his antics I don't know. Thats too
       incredibly soft penalties he has given in the last two games.
       Absolutely pathetic.
       >
       > Yet another big game ruined by a shocking performance from an
       official.
       >
       > What planet was Darren England on at Shockley park
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Clear to see who you support JackSamuel, every time Liverpool
       lose you come on here complaining about the officials. I don’t
       think Oliver had a great game today but to say it was the worst
       performance of the season is a bit ott personally. Also maybe
       look closer to home when blaming people as Liverpool certainly
       weren’t great and Arsenal were fully deserving of the victory.
       #Post#: 53465--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Michael Oliver and Darren England - Arsenal v Liverpool
   DIR By: jacksamuel21
       Date: October 9, 2022, 12:40 pm
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       --- Quote from: Bielsa’s Bucket link ---
       >
       > [quote author=jacksamuel21 link=topic=4043.msg53460#msg53460
       date=1665336953]
       > How Xhaka isn't booked for his antics I don't know. Thats too
       incredibly soft penalties he has given in the last two games.
       Absolutely pathetic.
       >
       > Yet another big game ruined by a shocking performance from an
       official.
       >
       > What planet was Darren England on at Shockley park
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Clear to see who you support JackSamuel, every time Liverpool
       lose you come on here complaining about the officials. I don’t
       think Oliver had a great game today but to say it was the worst
       performance of the season is a bit ott personally. Also maybe
       look closer to home when blaming people as Liverpool certainly
       weren’t great and Arsenal were fully deserving of the victory.
       [/quote]
       I admit we where awful but when a penalty like that decides a
       game its a farce especially with the one not given and the
       offside call
       #Post#: 53466--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Michael Oliver and Darren England - Arsenal v Liverpool
   DIR By: rustyref
       Date: October 9, 2022, 12:51 pm
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       --- Quote from: jacksamuel21 link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Bielsa’s Bucket
       link=topic=4043.msg53464#msg53464 date=1665337195]
       > [quote author=jacksamuel21 link=topic=4043.msg53460#msg53460
       date=1665336953]
       > How Xhaka isn't booked for his antics I don't know. Thats too
       incredibly soft penalties he has given in the last two games.
       Absolutely pathetic.
       >
       > Yet another big game ruined by a shocking performance from an
       official.
       >
       > What planet was Darren England on at Shockley park
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Clear to see who you support JackSamuel, every time Liverpool
       lose you come on here complaining about the officials. I don’t
       think Oliver had a great game today but to say it was the worst
       performance of the season is a bit ott personally. Also maybe
       look closer to home when blaming people as Liverpool certainly
       weren’t great and Arsenal were fully deserving of the victory.
       [/quote]
       I admit we where awful but when a penalty like that decides a
       game its a farce especially with the one not given and the
       offside call
       [/quote]
       Apart from it was a clear penalty
       🤷‍♂️ 🤦‍♂️
       #Post#: 53468--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Michael Oliver and Darren England - Arsenal v Liverpool
   DIR By: ajb95
       Date: October 9, 2022, 12:54 pm
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       Some of the comments on here are absolutely laughable! 😂
       you can tell they’re all arsenal and Liverpool fans.
       Haven’t seen the game but have seen the goals/decisions on
       Twitter. First goal is onside otherwise they wouldn’t have given
       it.
       Not handball for me, but a different referee might have given it
       on a different day. That being said I have no idea what handball
       is nowadays!
       No one on here has said the penalty given to arsenal is wrong;
       two posters have said it was “soft” but not wrong. Certainly not
       clear and obvious.
       What I would add, and Oliver isn’t the first referee to ignore
       it, is the ridiculous petty, quite pathetic antics on the
       touchline from both Arteta and Klopp. They are two of the worst
       managers on the touchline and should have had more than a
       talking to. Embarrassing behaviour
       #Post#: 53471--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Michael Oliver and Darren England - Arsenal v Liverpool
   DIR By: Hertsref123
       Date: October 9, 2022, 1:03 pm
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       --- Quote from: jacksamuel21 link ---
       >
       > Worst refereeing performance of the season. Edited out - I
       won't allow allegations of bias
       >
       > Diaz wrongly booked.
       >
       > Gomez/ Firmino wrongly booked.
       >
       > How Partey hasn't got booked.
       >
       > Stonewall handball penalty for liverpool not given.
       >
       > Martineli does to Trent what Royal did to him and play on.
       >
       > No lines drawn on the first arsenal goal which looks offside.
       >
       > Arsenal fans claim referees are against them?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Your posts here are a disgrace, Id suggest calming down before
       you end up posting something you regret later.
       Oliver certainly didn’t ruin this game, I thought he largely did
       pretty well, though pen was debatable
       All bookings were correct as far as I can see, though was
       surprised henderson and xhaka weren't booked. funnily enough you
       almost seem to be suggesting oliver was biased to arsenal, so
       that last bit is a tad hypocritical.
       As has been said above some of the comments in here are getting
       silly, can we please try and be a bit more sensible in here.
       comments such as the officials ruined the game are ridiculous.
       #Post#: 53472--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Michael Oliver and Darren England - Arsenal v Liverpool
   DIR By: bmb
       Date: October 9, 2022, 1:43 pm
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       --- Quote from: jacksamuel21 link ---
       >
       > Absolutely pathetic.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Yes your posts most certainly are.
       May I suggest staying away from the forum when your team have
       lost until you calm down a bit and are able to post without your
       tints obscuring your view.
       If you wish to rant and rave about a referee's perceived by you
       bias against your team please find a fans forum to do so. This
       is not the place for that.
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