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Re: Crystal Palace vs. Chelsea, Christopher Kavanagh [VAR:
Attwell]
DIR By: Rosstheref
Date: October 2, 2022, 8:53 am
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Yellow for me. He's a long way from goal still and is to the
left hand side of the pitch, not bearing down directly on goal.
It's also one that I think will split opinion!
#Post#: 53204--------------------------------------------------
Re: Crystal Palace vs. Chelsea, Christopher Kavanagh [VAR:
Attwell]
DIR By: RCG
Date: October 2, 2022, 10:00 am
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I think the fact the decision has split pundits and fans alike
would suggest there was a goal scoring opportunity but not an
obvious one.
Personally I thought it was a long way out on the angle,
leaving the attacker quite a lot to do, even if their next touch
took them back towards goal
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Re: Crystal Palace vs. Chelsea, Christopher Kavanagh [VAR:
Attwell]
DIR By: Observeref8
Date: October 3, 2022, 4:39 pm
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Not a good return for Kavanagh IMO which is his first game back
at PL Level.
A lot of the lads from work were in disbelief it was not a red
card due to the cynical nature of what
Silva did…… I think everywhere other than England Refs are
giving red Cards.
Really poor, and again with Attwell as a VAR.
#Post#: 53294--------------------------------------------------
Re: Crystal Palace vs. Chelsea, Christopher Kavanagh [VAR:
Attwell]
DIR By: RCG
Date: October 4, 2022, 12:55 am
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Whilst I agree it is cynical, there is nothing in the laws that
allow for an upgrade, if DOGSO is not applied
#Post#: 53328--------------------------------------------------
Re: Crystal Palace vs. Chelsea, Christopher Kavanagh [VAR:
Attwell]
DIR By: rustyref
Date: October 4, 2022, 12:26 pm
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--- Quote from: RCG link ---
>
> Whilst I agree it is cynical, there is nothing in the laws
that allow for an upgrade, if DOGSO is not applied
>
--- End Quote ---
Exactly, the officials can only look at the criteria needed for
DOGSO, which are ...
- Distance between offence and goal. This was quite a long way
although not too far.
- General direction of the play. He's wide and that counts
against the obviousness of it.
- Likelihood keeping or gaining control of the ball. Ticks this
one.
- Location and number of defenders. Chilwell looks a long way
away, but he is central and that potentially makes the distance
shorter.
So I'd say one of those is a definite yes, and the other three
are more maybes. They don't all have to be met, but (and this
isn't an official method) if we score 1 for yes, 0 for no and
0.5 for maybe, that is 2.5 out of 4. Is that enough to make it
an OGSO? I don't think so personally, any maybes question the
word obvious, three of them majorly question it.
There is absolutely nothing in law to say that it being cynical,
which this undoubtedly was, should or can be considered in the
decision making process.
#Post#: 53334--------------------------------------------------
Re: Crystal Palace vs. Chelsea, Christopher Kavanagh [VAR:
Attwell]
DIR By: Gorgeous George
Date: October 4, 2022, 4:40 pm
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I’ve been trying to put into words why I felt this was a SPA and
not a DOGSO and I think Rustyref covers this absolutely
perfectly. Too much doubt for me personally, and the cynical
nature of it doesn’t change that, as much as the whole world
would like it to!
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