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Re: Crystal Palace vs. Chelsea, Christopher Kavanagh [VAR:
Attwell]
DIR By: Ref95
Date: October 2, 2022, 1:31 am
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I think I just about side with Kavanagh on this one. Distance
from goal and the fact Ayew is going at no real speed and
initially travelling away from goal, presents enough doubt for
me, so yellow is correct.
Having said that, a red card would not have been overturned had
Kavanagh gone with it initially. Attwell correct not to
intervene for me.
#Post#: 53175--------------------------------------------------
Re: Crystal Palace vs. Chelsea, Christopher Kavanagh [VAR:
Attwell]
DIR By: Tweed
Date: October 2, 2022, 1:49 am
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I think you can argue this one either way - I think you could
argue he's in and will get a shot away and I think you can argue
because of the angle and distance the covering defender could
get back, no matter what you do in this one someone isn't happy
as they can make the counter argument quite well. I think it's
one you have to go with the onfield decision, I think they dealt
with that correctly.
#Post#: 53177--------------------------------------------------
Re: Crystal Palace vs. Chelsea, Christopher Kavanagh [VAR:
Attwell]
DIR By: Mackem ref
Date: October 2, 2022, 2:48 am
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Red card for me as if the handball doesn’t occur then for me he
is clear through on goal ready for a shot. Having said that, I
don’t think either red or yellow is an obvious error and
therefore difficult for VAR to intervene for me.
#Post#: 53180--------------------------------------------------
Re: Crystal Palace vs. Chelsea, Christopher Kavanagh [VAR:
Attwell]
DIR By: rustyref
Date: October 2, 2022, 3:46 am
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Personally I think red, but there is no way VAR can get involved
as very difficult to say a caution was a clear and obvious
error.
#Post#: 53182--------------------------------------------------
Re: Crystal Palace vs. Chelsea, Christopher Kavanagh [VAR:
Attwell]
DIR By: Readingfan
Date: October 2, 2022, 4:26 am
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--- Quote from: tef link ---
>
> I’m more leaning towards SPA than DOGSO but it’s very tight.
It’s the kind of cynical deliberate action that deserves to be
red but obviously it has to fit with what’s in Law. Not sure I
could be 100% sure Ayew is doing all of controlling it, then
moving goal bound whilst outpacing the already retreating
defenders, and then getting a shot away.
>
> I think the optimal outcome would’ve been to invite Kavanagh
to have a look for himself and confirm what he thought he saw,
but that’s obviously not the PGMOL protocol. .
>
--- End Quote ---
Based on that perspective, I'd also say it's not UEFA protocol
to be fair.
#Post#: 53183--------------------------------------------------
Re: Crystal Palace vs. Chelsea, Christopher Kavanagh [VAR:
Attwell]
DIR By: nemesis
Date: October 2, 2022, 4:51 am
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--- Quote from: rustyref link ---
>
> Personally I think red, but there is no way VAR can get
involved as very difficult to say a caution was a clear and
obvious error.
>
--- End Quote ---
..... hasn't stopped them in the past !
#Post#: 53185--------------------------------------------------
Re: Crystal Palace vs. Chelsea, Christopher Kavanagh [VAR:
Attwell]
DIR By: ajb95
Date: October 2, 2022, 5:04 am
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Clear red card. The nearest covering defender is 20 yards away.
For Kavanagh to get it wrong on the field is poor, but at least
understandable. For the VAR to get it wrong is inept
#Post#: 53187--------------------------------------------------
Re: Crystal Palace vs. Chelsea, Christopher Kavanagh [VAR:
Attwell]
DIR By: Acme Thunderer
Date: October 2, 2022, 5:27 am
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Distance from goal is surely irrelevant. There were no covering
players between Ayew and the goal, CK did not give a foul for
Ayew's challenge on Silva, therefore red card was appropriate
for DOGSO.
#Post#: 53189--------------------------------------------------
Re: Crystal Palace vs. Chelsea, Christopher Kavanagh [VAR:
Attwell]
DIR By: Ashington46
Date: October 2, 2022, 5:35 am
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--- Quote from: Acme Thunderer link ---
>
> Distance from goal is surely irrelevant. There were no
covering players between Ayew and the goal, CK did not give a
foul for Ayew's challenge on Silva, therefore red card was
appropriate for DOGSO.
>
--- End Quote ---
Let's be brutally honest. Silva probably saved Ayew the
embarrassment of yet another miss. He is hardly prolific when it
comes to scoring goals.
I thought that Ayew fouled Silva, soft perhaps, however, in the
modern game, it was a foul, although I honestly don't know how
the different officials are coming to decisions these days. It
is obvious from the comments on this board that confusion
reigns.
#Post#: 53198--------------------------------------------------
Re: Crystal Palace vs. Chelsea, Christopher Kavanagh [VAR:
Attwell]
DIR By: JCFC
Date: October 2, 2022, 8:46 am
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--- Quote from: Ashington46 link ---
>
> [quote author=Acme Thunderer link=topic=4013.msg53187#msg53187
date=1664706422]
> Distance from goal is surely irrelevant. There were no
covering players between Ayew and the goal, CK did not give a
foul for Ayew's challenge on Silva, therefore red card was
appropriate for DOGSO.
>
--- End Quote ---
Let's be brutally honest. Silva probably saved Ayew the
embarrassment of yet another miss. He is hardly prolific when it
comes to scoring goals.
I thought that Ayew fouled Silva, soft perhaps, however, in the
modern game, it was a foul, although I honestly don't know how
the different officials are coming to decisions these days.
It is obvious from the comments on this board that confusion
reigns.
[/quote]
It is obvious from decisions on the field that confusion reigns.
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