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Crystal Palace vs. Chelsea, Christopher Kavanagh [VAR: Attwell]
DIR By: Mikael W
Date: October 1, 2022, 5:02 pm
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SPA or DOGSO?
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Re: Crystal Palace vs. Chelsea, Christopher Kavanagh [VAR:
Attwell]
DIR By: jacksamuel21
Date: October 1, 2022, 5:04 pm
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DOGSO for me
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Re: Crystal Palace vs. Chelsea, Christopher Kavanagh [VAR:
Attwell]
DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
Date: October 1, 2022, 5:19 pm
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So the premier league returns and we are talking about the
incompetence of VAR and the on field officials once again.
It’s a clear DOGSO because had Silva not played the ball with
his hand the Palace player was through on goal with no covering
defender in sight. It has to be a red.
I cannot fathom how VAR has accepted the yellow card.
Even sending Kavanagh to the monitor would have been the
absolute minimum, but a FIFA official should have really dealt
with it on the field.
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Re: Crystal Palace vs. Chelsea, Christopher Kavanagh [VAR:
Attwell]
DIR By: Gorgeous George
Date: October 1, 2022, 5:21 pm
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Am I being daft or is the safest decision to give the defensive
free kick for Ayew barging into Silva?
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Re: Crystal Palace vs. Chelsea, Christopher Kavanagh [VAR:
Attwell]
DIR By: jacksamuel21
Date: October 1, 2022, 5:23 pm
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--- Quote from: TheThingFromLewes link ---
>
> So the premier league returns and we are talking about the
incompetence of VAR and the on field officials once again.
>
> It’s a clear DOGSO because had Silva not played the ball with
his hand the Palace player was through on goal with no covering
defender in sight. It has to be a red.
>
> I cannot fathom how VAR has accepted the yellow card.
>
> Even sending Kavanagh to the monitor would have been the
absolute minimum, but a FIFA official should have really dealt
with it on the field.
>
--- End Quote ---
This incident reminds me so much of Bowen and Konsa incident in
Aston Villa vs West Ham with Chris Kavanagh the referee (Stuart
Attwell the VAR that day as well) with the yellow then upgraded
to red.
Stuart Attwell really should have intervened.
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Re: Crystal Palace vs. Chelsea, Christopher Kavanagh [VAR:
Attwell]
DIR By: jacksamuel21
Date: October 1, 2022, 5:24 pm
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--- Quote from: Gorgeous George link ---
>
> Am I being daft or is the safest decision to give the
defensive free kick for Ayew barging into Silva?
>
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Would have been so so soft
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Re: Crystal Palace vs. Chelsea, Christopher Kavanagh [VAR:
Attwell]
DIR By: USRef10
Date: October 1, 2022, 5:42 pm
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Not DOGSO for me because of distance from goal and direction of
the ball. Ayu still 35yds from goal and would’ve played towards
the touch line to get past Silva. And not clear on goal with
Chilwell central and retreating towards goal.
DOGSO very harsh from that distance.
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Re: Crystal Palace vs. Chelsea, Christopher Kavanagh [VAR:
Attwell]
DIR By: tef
Date: October 1, 2022, 6:09 pm
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I’m more leaning towards SPA than DOGSO but it’s very tight.
It’s the kind of cynical deliberate action that deserves to be
red but obviously it has to fit with what’s in Law. Not sure I
could be 100% sure Ayew is doing all of controlling it, then
moving goal bound whilst outpacing the already retreating
defenders, and then getting a shot away.
I think the optimal outcome would’ve been to invite Kavanagh to
have a look for himself and confirm what he thought he saw, but
that’s obviously not the PGMOL protocol. .
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Re: Crystal Palace vs. Chelsea, Christopher Kavanagh [VAR:
Attwell]
DIR By: jacksamuel21
Date: October 1, 2022, 6:18 pm
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It’s certainly one that if if it’s given as a red onfield it’s
not overturned
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Re: Crystal Palace vs. Chelsea, Christopher Kavanagh [VAR:
Attwell]
DIR By: bmb
Date: October 1, 2022, 9:16 pm
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--- Quote from: USRef10 link ---
>
> Not DOGSO for me because of distance from goal and direction
of the ball. Ayu still 35yds from goal and would’ve played
towards the touch line to get past Silva. And not clear on goal
with Chilwell central and retreating towards goal.
>
> DOGSO very harsh from that distance.
>
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Agreed
distance between the offence and the goal - too far out
general direction of the play - he was running more towards the
touchline not towards goal
likelihood of keeping or gaining control of the ball - possible
location and number of defenders - other defenders on their way
back who would have been in position by the time he reached
closer to goal
Does not tick the boxes for DOGSO but does for SPA so yellow
card & free kick correct by the ref & VAR on the possible red
card review. Correct call by Kavanagh & Attwell.
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