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Re: This weekend and VAR
DIR By: bmb
Date: September 7, 2022, 6:00 pm
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Thanks. Must be the fully fledged system I was wittering on
about then.
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Re: This weekend and VAR
DIR By: steveflanuk
Date: September 9, 2022, 5:45 am
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> Article from Henry Winter in The Times -
HTML https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/57b9f306-2d1f-11ed-b64b-1375cd73757d?shareToken=2e7914309219ff3573158807328f8748
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> He praises light touch UEFA VAR in Euro 2020 and notes there
were only 18 VAR interventions in the 51 games - if anyone
happens to know, it would be interesting to know how many VAR
interventions there were in first 5 rounds of Premier League
this season.
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> I think the article is perhaps a bit lazy at times. Winter
writes that VAR should be swift and correct, which is easy to
write on paper but perhaps less easy to implement in reality.
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> Winter has a 5 point plan to improve VAR.
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> 1. Have a 90 second time limit on making decisions
> 2. Have officials working in same VAR teams and have them at
the stadium rather than at a remote location.
> 3. Mic up officials and broadcast conversations to
fans/viewers.
> 4. Work with the managers.
> 5. Bring Howard Webb in and have him more closely follow
UEFA's 'light touch' model
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> Point 1 might sound good in theory but runs the risk of being
swift but incorrect. I'm not convinced rushed decisions is going
to lead to any greater accuracy. He says offside decisions
shouldn't take 4 minutes to make but it did on Sunday and seems
to have been accepted as correct by most. There have also been
plenty of previous examples of offside decisions in CL taking
several minutes, although should be quicker this season with
semi-automated offside system.
>
> Point 2 does not seem to be standard in most countries, where
they have the choice. UEFA started off having referees at
stadiums but I think have largely now moved to having a remote
location where they can be properly briefed/debriefed. There
could obviously be a benefit to the same people working together
but obvious logistical challenges with some officials unable to
officiate certain teams, different referees doing games each
week and needing to work around people's availability. For
instance, you could pair Anthony Taylor and Stuart Attwell but
what do you do if you want Taylor to referee a Monday night
match but Attwell has a UEFA appointment on the Tuesday? Or
indeed if you want Taylor to referee on a Saturday and you also
want Attwell to referee that weekend.
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> Point 3 is the ideal I think but isn't done anywhere in the
world currently and is outside PL's remit. Following processes
in place in countries like America would be a good start.
>
> Point 4 is rather vague.
>
> Points 1, 2 and 3 seem to contradict Point 5 as none of them
are in line with how UEFA currently do things really. The
article seems to argue for following examples from elsewhere
whilst at the same time suggesting the PL should start doing
things that aren't really being done anywhere else.
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Point 1 - I agree that they should look at a time limit. As the
Premier League states All 380 Premier League fixtures in a
season will have a VAR, who is constantly monitoring the match
but will be used only for "clear and obvious errors" or "serious
missed incidents" (
HTML https://www.premierleague.com/VAR)
Although a decision made after 4 minutes might be the 'correct'
decision I would say taking 4 minutes means it is not a clear
and obvious error.
Point 2 - Not sure what difference this would make.
Point 3 - Absolutely, and I think this would clear up a lot of
questions as to why a particular decision was made.
In fact, points 3, 4 and 5 look to be various points with the
underlying message that there is something currently wrong with
communication lines between officials and everyone else.
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