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#Post#: 51974--------------------------------------------------
Re: Sat 3rd & Sun 4th SEP 2022
By: TVOS Date: August 30, 2022, 9:04 am
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[quote author=jacksamuel21 link=topic=3926.msg51973#msg51973
date=1661868134]
[quote author=Rhys147 link=topic=3926.msg51972#msg51972
date=1661867687]
Another decent set of appointments. Anthony Taylor with the big
game of the weekend isn't a suprise but i'd rather him on that
game than someone like Paul Tierney speaking of which has Man
Utd for the 2nd time in a month and i'm sure they could have
appointed someone else to that game. Interesting that Chris
Kavanagh has another championship game as i was expecting him to
get a PL game this weekend.
[/quote]
Who could be appointed? Marriner is the only other available
name and he has a midweek game and he is getting old. Rob Jones
has leeds again for the second time.
[/quote]
"he is getting old"
He's on the list and is therefore available for any game.
#Post#: 51975--------------------------------------------------
Re: Sat 3rd & Sun 4th SEP 2022
By: jacksamuel21 Date: August 30, 2022, 9:07 am
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[quote author=TVOS link=topic=3926.msg51974#msg51974
date=1661868240]
[quote author=jacksamuel21 link=topic=3926.msg51973#msg51973
date=1661868134]
[quote author=Rhys147 link=topic=3926.msg51972#msg51972
date=1661867687]
Another decent set of appointments. Anthony Taylor with the big
game of the weekend isn't a suprise but i'd rather him on that
game than someone like Paul Tierney speaking of which has Man
Utd for the 2nd time in a month and i'm sure they could have
appointed someone else to that game. Interesting that Chris
Kavanagh has another championship game as i was expecting him to
get a PL game this weekend.
[/quote]
Who could be appointed? Marriner is the only other available
name and he has a midweek game and he is getting old. Rob Jones
has leeds again for the second time.
[/quote]
"he is getting old"
He's on the list and is therefore available for any game.
[/quote]
Getting old in the sense that midweek games followed by weekend
in two big games may be a struggle fitness wise for him
#Post#: 51976--------------------------------------------------
Re: Sat 3rd & Sun 4th SEP 2022
By: Hertsref123 Date: August 30, 2022, 10:09 am
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[quote author=jacksamuel21 link=topic=3926.msg51975#msg51975
date=1661868460]
[quote author=TVOS link=topic=3926.msg51974#msg51974
date=1661868240]
[quote author=jacksamuel21 link=topic=3926.msg51973#msg51973
date=1661868134]
[quote author=Rhys147 link=topic=3926.msg51972#msg51972
date=1661867687]
Another decent set of appointments. Anthony Taylor with the big
game of the weekend isn't a suprise but i'd rather him on that
game than someone like Paul Tierney speaking of which has Man
Utd for the 2nd time in a month and i'm sure they could have
appointed someone else to that game. Interesting that Chris
Kavanagh has another championship game as i was expecting him to
get a PL game this weekend.
[/quote]
Who could be appointed? Marriner is the only other available
name and he has a midweek game and he is getting old. Rob Jones
has leeds again for the second time.
[/quote]
"he is getting old"
He's on the list and is therefore available for any game.
[/quote]
Getting old in the sense that midweek games followed by weekend
in two big games may be a struggle fitness wise for him
[/quote]
If he was struggling, he wouldn't even be on the list simple as,
this is copied and pasted from a post by bmb a while back, but
it shows just how intense the fitness tests the refs undergo
are.
Repeated sprint ability test: 6 x 40m sprints - maximum 6
seconds to do the sprint, max 60 seconds recovery time between
each sprint during which they walk back to the start of the 40m
sprint area. If they fail 1/6 they are given an immediate 7th
sprint, if they fail that, they fail the test.
Interval Test:40 x 75m runs/25m walk (equal to 4,000m) Max 17
seconds per 75m run, max 20 seconds per 25m walk. If they fail
to reach the walking section once they get a warning, twice and
they fail the test.
The time between the end of Test 1 and the start of Test 2
should be 6 to 8 minutes maximum.
Optional Dynamic yoyo test (as in by the PGMOL if they use it
not the referee if it is used): 16 different coloured cones 20m
apart in a set zig zag formation. Set run time between each cone
(can't remember the exact time but it's a matter of seconds)
Level 18-8. Total distance covered 2,040m. Failure to reach cone
in time once is a warning, twice is a fail.
Optional yoyo intermittent test (as in by the PGMOL if they use
it not the referee if it is used): 6 cones A at zero, A-B 5m
apart, B-C 20m apart. Run 20m B-C, turn, Run 20m C-B, walk 5m
B-A, turn walk 5m A-B Level 18-2. Total distance run 1800m.
Failure to reach cone in time once is a warning, twice is a
fail.
Andre obviously passed all that, so is more than capable of
doing two games a week, he certainly isn't struggling.
#Post#: 51977--------------------------------------------------
Re: Sat 3rd & Sun 4th SEP 2022
By: jacksamuel21 Date: August 30, 2022, 10:21 am
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[quote author=Hertsref123 link=topic=3926.msg51976#msg51976
date=1661872182]
[quote author=jacksamuel21 link=topic=3926.msg51975#msg51975
date=1661868460]
[quote author=TVOS link=topic=3926.msg51974#msg51974
date=1661868240]
[quote author=jacksamuel21 link=topic=3926.msg51973#msg51973
date=1661868134]
[quote author=Rhys147 link=topic=3926.msg51972#msg51972
date=1661867687]
Another decent set of appointments. Anthony Taylor with the big
game of the weekend isn't a suprise but i'd rather him on that
game than someone like Paul Tierney speaking of which has Man
Utd for the 2nd time in a month and i'm sure they could have
appointed someone else to that game. Interesting that Chris
Kavanagh has another championship game as i was expecting him to
get a PL game this weekend.
[/quote]
Who could be appointed? Marriner is the only other available
name and he has a midweek game and he is getting old. Rob Jones
has leeds again for the second time.
[/quote]
"he is getting old"
He's on the list and is therefore available for any game.
[/quote]
Getting old in the sense that midweek games followed by weekend
in two big games may be a struggle fitness wise for him
[/quote]
If he was struggling, he wouldn't even be on the list simple as,
this is copied and pasted from a post by bmb a while back, but
it shows just how intense the fitness tests the refs undergo
are.
Repeated sprint ability test: 6 x 40m sprints - maximum 6
seconds to do the sprint, max 60 seconds recovery time between
each sprint during which they walk back to the start of the 40m
sprint area. If they fail 1/6 they are given an immediate 7th
sprint, if they fail that, they fail the test.
Interval Test:40 x 75m runs/25m walk (equal to 4,000m) Max 17
seconds per 75m run, max 20 seconds per 25m walk. If they fail
to reach the walking section once they get a warning, twice and
they fail the test.
The time between the end of Test 1 and the start of Test 2
should be 6 to 8 minutes maximum.
Optional Dynamic yoyo test (as in by the PGMOL if they use it
not the referee if it is used): 16 different coloured cones 20m
apart in a set zig zag formation. Set run time between each cone
(can't remember the exact time but it's a matter of seconds)
Level 18-8. Total distance covered 2,040m. Failure to reach cone
in time once is a warning, twice is a fail.
Optional yoyo intermittent test (as in by the PGMOL if they use
it not the referee if it is used): 6 cones A at zero, A-B 5m
apart, B-C 20m apart. Run 20m B-C, turn, Run 20m C-B, walk 5m
B-A, turn walk 5m A-B Level 18-2. Total distance run 1800m.
Failure to reach cone in time once is a warning, twice is a
fail.
Andre obviously passed all that, so is more than capable of
doing two games a week, he certainly isn't struggling.
[/quote]
Anyway Andre Marriner is the only other name on the list for a
top 6 game who is available
#Post#: 51978--------------------------------------------------
Re: Sat 3rd & Sun 4th SEP 2022
By: takethejag Date: August 30, 2022, 10:26 am
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[quote author=TheThingFromLewes
link=topic=3926.msg51919#msg51919 date=1661789179]
Attwell for us at Tottenham
[/quote]
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#Post#: 51991--------------------------------------------------
Re: Sat 3rd & Sun 4th SEP 2022
By: rustyref Date: August 30, 2022, 4:05 pm
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[quote author=jacksamuel21 link=topic=3926.msg51975#msg51975
date=1661868460]
[quote author=TVOS link=topic=3926.msg51974#msg51974
date=1661868240]
[quote author=jacksamuel21 link=topic=3926.msg51973#msg51973
date=1661868134]
[quote author=Rhys147 link=topic=3926.msg51972#msg51972
date=1661867687]
Another decent set of appointments. Anthony Taylor with the big
game of the weekend isn't a suprise but i'd rather him on that
game than someone like Paul Tierney speaking of which has Man
Utd for the 2nd time in a month and i'm sure they could have
appointed someone else to that game. Interesting that Chris
Kavanagh has another championship game as i was expecting him to
get a PL game this weekend.
[/quote]
Who could be appointed? Marriner is the only other available
name and he has a midweek game and he is getting old. Rob Jones
has leeds again for the second time.
[/quote]
"he is getting old"
He's on the list and is therefore available for any game.
[/quote]
Getting old in the sense that midweek games followed by weekend
in two big games may be a struggle fitness wise for him
[/quote]
Have you watched him referee games? He moves exactly the same
as he did when he was in his 30s, he didn't really use much
dynamic movement then and still doesn't now. That isn't a
criticism of him by the way, he reads play well and manages to
keep close enough to play without using lung busting sprints
that some of the other officials have to. I suspect he could
carry on into his late 50s if he wanted to.
#Post#: 51993--------------------------------------------------
Re: Sat 3rd & Sun 4th SEP 2022
By: Readingfan Date: August 30, 2022, 4:25 pm
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I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that a referee in his
50s might need managing a little differently to when they were
10 or 15 years younger. I remember Mike Dean saying in his
podcast with Peter Crouch in February 2020 that it took his body
a lot longer to recover after each game compared to when he'd
been in his 30s. He refereed for another few years so that's not
to suggest that a referee isn't fit enough or they can't still
referee well but not sure you can entirely ignore the recovery
period as a factor, just as you probably wouldn't for a player
in their mid 30s.
I think, in general, having a second appointment to a particular
club is fine at this stage.
Taylor/Oliver/Tierney/Attwell/England/Pawson/Madley/Gillett/Jone
s
have all refereed Man Utd/Arsenal so far this season.
#Post#: 51994--------------------------------------------------
Re: Sat 3rd & Sun 4th SEP 2022
By: rustyref Date: August 30, 2022, 4:42 pm
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[quote author=Readingfan link=topic=3926.msg51993#msg51993
date=1661894716]
I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that a referee in his
50s might need managing a little differently to when they were
10 or 15 years younger. I remember Mike Dean saying in his
podcast with Peter Crouch in February 2020 that it took his body
a lot longer to recover after each game compared to when he'd
been in his 30s. He refereed for another few years so that's not
to suggest that a referee isn't fit enough or they can't still
referee well but not sure you can entirely ignore the recovery
period as a factor, just as you probably wouldn't for a player
in their mid 30s.
I think, in general, having a second appointment to a particular
club is fine at this stage.
Taylor/Oliver/Tierney/Attwell/England/Pawson/Madley/Gillett/Jone
s
have all refereed Man Utd/Arsenal so far this season.
[/quote]
I do agree with that in general, but I think Marriner is a
special case, he doesn't appear to need to work as hard as Mike
Dean did. He makes it look effortless.
#Post#: 52005--------------------------------------------------
Re: Sat 3rd & Sun 4th SEP 2022
By: jacksamuel21 Date: August 31, 2022, 3:57 am
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I have a question about logistics in which BmB will likely know
the answer.
In terms of the transport between matches, what is the required
distance for a flight and for a hotel stay overnight?
I was just wondering about Hooper and how he will get to old
trafford as he lives miles away, the same as Hatzidakis and
Betts who are both in London on the Saturday having to travel up
to Manchester.
#Post#: 52006--------------------------------------------------
Re: Sat 3rd & Sun 4th SEP 2022
By: ajb95 Date: August 31, 2022, 4:12 am
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We are barely a month into the season, only 6 games in, and yet
some refs getting teams for a second time. And I thought the
appointments were going well :(
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