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Not so familiar referees of the 50s and 60s
DIR By: olddeagle
Date: August 16, 2022, 12:49 pm
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Apologies if everyone except me saw this ages ago, but on
Theheavyroller section of Youtube is a large collection of short
TV football highlights programmes from the 50s and 60s. Some of
them are from the programmes that predated Match of the Day on
Saturday evenings before 1964/5, often introduced by Kenneth
Wolstenholme and featuring commentators such as David Coleman,
Cliff Michelmore and Alan Weeks as well as Wolstenholme himself.
The picture quality isn't always great and the sound sometimes
packs up completely, but for those of a certain vintage it's a
great way to waste an hour or two, and in particular it's a
chance to spot some of the refs of the period. Some are obvious
such as Arthur Ellis, Jim Finney, Reg Leafe, Kevin Howley etc,
but I've found a lot of others who weren't immediately
recognisable to me at any rate. Occasionally the commentary
identifies the ref but I've also found the following from
searching programmes on eBay or the British Newspaper archive
for reports, in no particular order:
West Ham v Man City 61/2-A W Sparling
Wolves v Man City 60/61-R Reddaway
Spurs v Sheff Wd 57/8-B A E Buckle
Luton v Preston 56/7-F Overton
Bristol City v Middlesbrough 59/60-J S Pickles
Chelsea v Huddersfield 62/3-A E Moore
Hastings v Norwich (FA Cup) 53/4-F C Williams
Arsenal v Bolton 60/1-P H Carr
Man City v Spurs 60/1=P Rhodes
Spurs v Blackburn 60/1-R M Jordan
West Ham v Ipswich 61/2-P G Brandwood
Plymouth v WBA (FA Cup) 62/3-R E Smith
West Ham v Wolves 60/1-K J Seddon
West Ham v Sheff Wds 60/1-F V Stringer
Bolton v Man U 60/1-A Edge (also on Sheff Utd v Ipswich 62/3)
Man U v Blackpool 55/6-F Gerrard
Burnley v Chelsea 61/2-K Stokes
I'm sure there are lots more.
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Re: Not so familiar referees of the 50s and 60s
DIR By: olddeagle
Date: August 16, 2022, 4:47 pm
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A couple more just spotted-
Leyton Orient v Blackpool 62/3-S Yates
Chelsea v Rotherham 62/3-J E Cooke
and topically, the famous Minister for Drought who made it rain-
Chelsea v Portsmouth 58/9-Denis Howell MP!
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Re: Not so familiar referees of the 50s and 60s
DIR By: olddeagle
Date: August 21, 2022, 10:02 am
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...and a few more;
Spurs v Charlton (FA Cup) 60/1-J S McLaughlin
Spurs v Burnley 61/2-C W Kingston
Wolves v Chelsea 60/1-C F Duxbury
Luton v Preston 58/9-A E Westwood [later secretary of Norwich]
Wolves v Villa (FA Cup semi final) 59/60-A Jobling
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Re: Not so familiar referees of the 50s and 60s
DIR By: Boris10
Date: August 25, 2022, 5:39 am
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Some were very familiar if you supported teams in the former
L1/2.
AW Sparling-small and slight-from Grimsby so much in evidence in
West Yorkshire.
JS Mclaughlan-dont remember him being mentioned on ISOR.Was from
Manchester and did visit West Yorkshire but have no recollection
of what he was like.
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Re: Not so familiar referees of the 50s and 60s
DIR By: Boris10
Date: August 25, 2022, 5:42 am
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Alf Jobling-popular/frequent visitor to Yorkshire.Might have
been born in Bradford but he was a regular at both Bradford
clubs from his Morecambe address.
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Re: Not so familiar referees of the 50s and 60s
DIR By: John Treleven
Date: August 25, 2022, 9:36 am
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Al, full name Algernon, (not Alf) Jobling (of Morecambe) was
born in Sedgefield, Durham
but did marry in Yorkshire (Wharfedale) before dying in
Blackpool
There were two other Jobling linesmen at the same time (late
40s/early 50s) seemingly unrelated
Edgar (Lincoln) and William (Newcastle)
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Re: Not so familiar referees of the 50s and 60s
DIR By: Acme Thunderer
Date: August 25, 2022, 9:43 am
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I was reading that Ken Stokes was the man in charge of the
'Battle of Goodison' in Nov 1964 when both teams were sent to
the dressing room for 10 mins 'to cool down' and Ken was pelted
by coins among other things. I didn't see Ken referee but I
believe he went on to become a key figure in referee training
and (if he was) he was a leader at a two-part refereeing course
which I attended at Lilleshall in the 1970s.
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Re: Not so familiar referees of the 50s and 60s
DIR By: John Treleven
Date: August 25, 2022, 11:13 am
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On the old board from Diogenes -
Alan Seville was a really good referee; not too tall, crew cut
and very purposeful. Impressed the players as a hard working
official, I believe, thus getting their respect.
Ken Stokes had that approach too and he was outstanding. Intense
concentration was their keynote which the players seemed to copy
and so got on with their game.
Stokes took the Everton and Leeds players off the pitch at
Goodison Park one year as their behaviour was awful. This had
the desired effect and was, at the time, a very brave decision.
Fully supported by the F.A. who gave him a Man. Utd/West Ham Cup
Semi-Final later (note - this was eight months earlier)
I had the privilege of meeting Ken at a Lilleshall course in the
1970s. He had so much good sense to share.
He gave an impromptu talk on how to use the whistle effectively.
At the outset there were weary smiles but what he had to say was
riveting. A 20 minute masterclass!
A thorough gentleman.
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Re: Not so familiar referees of the 50s and 60s
DIR By: Acme Thunderer
Date: August 26, 2022, 2:51 am
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I must have been on the same course as Diogenes. 'Weary smiles'
- must have been the peacocks which called from dawn onwards
(July)!
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Re: Not so familiar referees of the 50s and 60s
DIR By: John Treleven
Date: August 26, 2022, 5:55 am
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I had never come across these so was fascinated by the "heads
up"
Apparently 592 videos, but only found 493
I have attempted to list them below by season
0
1
Cup
2
semi-final 1947-8
3
Cup
4
1948-9
5
1949-50
6
7
1951
8
Cup
9
Cup
10
11
1951
12
1951
13
14
Cup
15
1951-2
16
Cup
17
Cup
18
19
1952
20
1952
21
22
23
1953
24
25
1952-3
26
1952-3
27
28
29
Cup
30
Cup
31
replay 1952-3
32
33
Chelsea 1952-3
34
1953
35
1953
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