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Re: P TIERNEY - Man U v Brighton
DIR By: rustyref
Date: August 8, 2022, 12:26 pm
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> [quote author=rustyref link=topic=3869.msg50845#msg50845
date=1659906310]
> Not sure I blame the officials, they still appear to be scared
about what will happen to them if they recommend a review. Or
if they are the referee, what will happen if they look at the
review and stick with original decision. Its a leadership
problem, and that will continue until Mike Riley's replacement
is in place.
>
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You don’t need a ceo above you to tell you that’s a penalty. a
blind man reffing a Sunday league match down the local park
would have given that.
You cannot Defend blatant incompetence
[/quote]
They have seemingly been told to set a high bar. If your boss
at work tells you to do something and you don't then you are
accountable and face sanctions, referees are no different. At
work you might miss out on promotion, get a written warning, not
get a bonus, etc, an SG1 referee will be taken off games.
Remember when Graham Scott decided not to follow VAR advice, he
wasn't seen in the middle for ages even though he was arguably
correct to stick by his decision.
It isn't right, but it seems pretty clear referees in England
are scared of using VAR as it is used in other countries, and
that can only come down to management.
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Re: P TIERNEY - Man U v Brighton
DIR By: Seagull
Date: August 9, 2022, 4:37 am
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> [quote author=ajb95 link=topic=3869.msg50846#msg50846
date=1659909373]
> [quote author=rustyref link=topic=3869.msg50845#msg50845
date=1659906310]
> Not sure I blame the officials, they still appear to be scared
about what will happen to them if they recommend a review. Or
if they are the referee, what will happen if they look at the
review and stick with original decision. Its a leadership
problem, and that will continue until Mike Riley's replacement
is in place.
>
--- End Quote ---
You don’t need a ceo above you to tell you that’s a penalty. a
blind man reffing a Sunday league match down the local park
would have given that.
You cannot Defend blatant incompetence
[/quote]
They have seemingly been told to set a high bar. If your boss
at work tells you to do something and you don't then you are
accountable and face sanctions, referees are no different. At
work you might miss out on promotion, get a written warning, not
get a bonus, etc, an SG1 referee will be taken off games.
Remember when Graham Scott decided not to follow VAR advice, he
wasn't seen in the middle for ages even though he was arguably
correct to stick by his decision.
It isn't right, but it seems pretty clear referees in England
are scared of using VAR as it is used in other countries, and
that can only come down to management.
[/quote]
A blatant and forceful shoulder charge combined with a strong
push into a player's back with no attempt to play the ball is
about as high as the bar can reach, in my opinion.
#Post#: 50948--------------------------------------------------
Re: P TIERNEY - Man U v Brighton
DIR By: SuffolkRef
Date: August 9, 2022, 11:49 am
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> [quote author=rustyref link=topic=3869.msg50902#msg50902
date=1659979561]
> [quote author=ajb95 link=topic=3869.msg50846#msg50846
date=1659909373]
> [quote author=rustyref link=topic=3869.msg50845#msg50845
date=1659906310]
> Not sure I blame the officials, they still appear to be scared
about what will happen to them if they recommend a review. Or
if they are the referee, what will happen if they look at the
review and stick with original decision. Its a leadership
problem, and that will continue until Mike Riley's replacement
is in place.
>
--- End Quote ---
You don’t need a ceo above you to tell you that’s a penalty. a
blind man reffing a Sunday league match down the local park
would have given that.
You cannot Defend blatant incompetence
[/quote]
They have seemingly been told to set a high bar. If your boss
at work tells you to do something and you don't then you are
accountable and face sanctions, referees are no different. At
work you might miss out on promotion, get a written warning, not
get a bonus, etc, an SG1 referee will be taken off games.
Remember when Graham Scott decided not to follow VAR advice, he
wasn't seen in the middle for ages even though he was arguably
correct to stick by his decision.
It isn't right, but it seems pretty clear referees in England
are scared of using VAR as it is used in other countries, and
that can only come down to management.
[/quote]
A blatant and forceful shoulder charge combined with a strong
push into a player's back with no attempt to play the ball is
about as high as the bar can reach, in my opinion.
[/quote]
It is a high bar. I’m not sure if an explanation has been
provided by the PGMOL about this incident, but this “high bar”
really has the potential to make VAR officials look foolish (or
more foolish for some) throughout the season.
As with the Championship play off final, the speed of the review
seemed to me to be anything but thorough.
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