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       Mark Clattenburg
   DIR By: Acme Thunderer
       Date: June 30, 2022, 7:25 am
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       This in today's BBC Football News online:
       Former English Premier League referee Mark Clattenburg has been
       appointed as head of Egypt's newly created refereeing committee.
       The decision was made at a meeting of the Egyptian Football
       Association (EFA) on Wednesday. The EFA's move comes as local
       referees have been criticised by a lot of clubs in the Egyptian
       Premier League over their officiating this season. In recent
       years teams have threatened to withdraw from the league in
       protest over what they perceive as poor decisions which have
       cost them vital points.
       Clattenburg officiated more than 570 domestic, European and
       international matches between 2000 and 2017, with two of his
       career highlights coming in 2016 when he took charge of both the
       Champions League final in Milan and the European Championship
       final between Portugal and France.
       The 47-year-old left the English top flight in February 2017 to
       take over as the head of refereeing in Saudi Arabia, replacing
       compatriot Howard Webb.
       Clattenburg has also had a stint working in China.
       #Post#: 49901--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Mark Clattenburg
   DIR By: guest3
       Date: June 30, 2022, 8:43 am
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       My condolences to Egyptian refereeing......
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       Re: Mark Clattenburg
   DIR By: DublinRef
       Date: June 30, 2022, 9:27 am
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       --- Quote from: edy link ---
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       > My condolences to Egyptian refereeing......
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Is he gone from Greece now with this new role? If so I’m sure
       you will be happy edy.
       Reflecting on his time there may I ask what would be your main
       criticism of his management?
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       Re: Mark Clattenburg
   DIR By: Whistleblower
       Date: June 30, 2022, 9:44 am
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       Good luck to Clattenburg and to Egyptian refereeing.  I never
       particularly cared for Clattenburg's style ( though highly
       significant people in UEFA clearly did ) A case of " the old
       bizarre in Cairo " perhaps. [emoji6]
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       Re: Mark Clattenburg
   DIR By: Acme Thunderer
       Date: June 30, 2022, 9:46 am
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       Presumably no chance then of Clatts replacing Mike Riley...?
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       Re: Mark Clattenburg
   DIR By: rustyref
       Date: June 30, 2022, 10:45 am
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       There was zero chance of that happening anyway.  Elleray may
       have gone, but there will still be a lot of traditionalists on
       the FA's Referees Committee who won't like Clattenburg.
       #Post#: 49908--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Mark Clattenburg
   DIR By: PhiltheRef
       Date: June 30, 2022, 5:47 pm
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       Him replacing Riley would be the definition of retrograde
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       Re: Mark Clattenburg
   DIR By: guest3
       Date: July 1, 2022, 7:52 am
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       --- Quote from: DublinRef link ---
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       > [quote author=edy link=topic=3804.msg49901#msg49901
       date=1656596584]
       > My condolences to Egyptian refereeing......
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Is he gone from Greece now with this new role? If so I’m sure
       you will be happy edy.
       Reflecting on his time there may I ask what would be your main
       criticism of his management?
       [/quote]
       Yes, he is gone from Greece now. I am happy about it even
       though, I was his supporter when he came.
       The only thing that he cared about was his big contract and
       appointments. No development, foreign referees even in SL2 (2nd
       league). He was never interested to renew the referees and
       observers lists. Especially the observers list on all 3
       categories are pretty much the same since 2018. Former referees
       who are observers for over 20 years, old enough who are only
       interested for their fee. Nothing to contribute, no help on the
       referees.
       IMO his biggest mistake is that he never took the time to learn
       the referees (especially on SL2 and 3rd league). These referees
       are the future.
       #Post#: 49919--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Mark Clattenburg
   DIR By: DublinRef
       Date: July 1, 2022, 11:26 am
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       --- Quote from: edy link ---
       >
       > [quote author=DublinRef link=topic=3804.msg49904#msg49904
       date=1656599257]
       > [quote author=edy link=topic=3804.msg49901#msg49901
       date=1656596584]
       > My condolences to Egyptian refereeing......
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Is he gone from Greece now with this new role? If so I’m sure
       you will be happy edy.
       Reflecting on his time there may I ask what would be your main
       criticism of his management?
       [/quote]
       Yes, he is gone from Greece now. I am happy about it even
       though, I was his supporter when he came.
       The only thing that he cared about was his big contract and
       appointments. No development, foreign referees even in SL2 (2nd
       league). He was never interested to renew the referees and
       observers lists. Especially the observers list on all 3
       categories are pretty much the same since 2018. Former referees
       who are observers for over 20 years, old enough who are only
       interested for their fee. Nothing to contribute, no help on the
       referees.
       IMO his biggest mistake is that he never took the time to learn
       the referees (especially on SL2 and 3rd league). These referees
       are the future.
       [/quote]
       Many thanks edy, I was a huge fan of Clattenburg as a referee so
       it is a shame for me to read he had such a negative impact on
       Greek refereeing in your view, as I hold your opinion in the
       highest regard. Hopefully he will have more luck in Egypt.
       #Post#: 49923--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Mark Clattenburg
   DIR By: Hendo
       Date: July 1, 2022, 1:40 pm
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       I was never a Clattenburg fan - far too full of himself and
       little regard for authority - but thought most others were
       Clattenburg groupies. It’s interesting to see some of the
       comments here from many of RTR’s most respected posters and to
       realise I was very much not in the minority.
       Saudi Arabia, Greece and Chinas gain is very much Egypts loss
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