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The FA Buildbase FA Trophy First Round Proper (Sat 15th - Tue
18th DEC 2018)
DIR By: aaa
Date: December 10, 2018, 1:53 pm
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AFC Fylde (First Team) v Stratford Town FC (First Team)
F.A. Challenge Trophy
Referee: Copeland, Steven
Assistant Referee: Strain, Darren
Assistant Referee: Ball, Anthony
Fourth Official: Wyatt, Benjamin
AFC Telford United (First Team) v Farsley Celtic FC (First Team)
F.A. Challenge Trophy
Referee: Massey-Ellis, Robert
Assistant Referee: Billingham, Mark
Assistant Referee: Hathaway, Robert
Fourth Official: Durnall, Steve
Aldershot Town FC (First Team) v Bedford Town (First Team)
F.A. Challenge Trophy
Referee: Jackson, Scott
Assistant Referee: Williams, Scott
Assistant Referee: Berrow, Alan
Fourth Official: Kyle, Stu
Altrincham FC (First Team) v Stockport County FC (First Team)
F.A. Challenge Trophy
Referee: Swallow, Elliott
Assistant Referee: Eley, Richard
Assistant Referee: Kane, Samuel
Fourth Official: Elliott, Tom
Barnet FC (First Team) v Bath City FC (First Team)
F.A. Challenge Trophy
Referee: Pollard, Christopher
Assistant Referee: Jackson, Oliver
Assistant Referee: Barry, Shaun
Fourth Official: Bloxham, Jack
Barrow AFC (First Team) v FC Halifax Town (First Team)
F.A. Challenge Trophy
Referee: Miller, Andrew
Assistant Referee: Atkinson, Ben
Assistant Referee: Gray, Alex
Fourth Official: Gordon, Jack
Biggleswade Town (First Team) v Wealdstone FC (First Team)
F.A. Challenge Trophy
Referee: Miles, Jacob
Assistant Referee: Benn, Lisa
Assistant Referee: Cooke, Thomas
Fourth Official: Laing, Derrick
Boreham Wood FC (First Team) v Torquay United FC (First Team)
F.A. Challenge Trophy
Referee: Hulme, Richard
Assistant Referee: Gill, Sunny (Sukhvir)
Assistant Referee: Barnett, Craig
Fourth Official: WAS, Jonathan
Brackley Town FC (First Team) v Hayes & Yeading United FC (First
Team)
F.A. Challenge Trophy
Referee: Whitton, Robert
Assistant Referee: Crofts, Joshua
Assistant Referee: Ricardo, Ruebyn
Fourth Official: Dadley, Robbie
Bromley FC (First Team) v Sutton United FC (First Team)
F.A. Challenge Trophy
Referee: Allison, Samuel (Sam)
Assistant Referee: Geary, Darin
Assistant Referee: Farmer, Aaron
Fourth Official: Kaye, Elliott
Carshalton Athletic FC (First Team) v Dorking Wanderers FC
(First Team)
F.A. Challenge Trophy
Referee: Hughes, Steven
Assistant Referee: Marsh, Michael
Assistant Referee: Onita, Aurel
Fourth Official: Bartlett, Conall
Chesterfield FC (First Team) v Basford United FC (First Team)
F.A. Challenge Trophy
Referee: Hull, Joe
Assistant Referee: Chester, Martin
Assistant Referee: Wainman, Thomas
Fourth Official: Jones, David
Dover Athletic FC (First Team) v Havant & Waterlooville FC
(First Team)
F.A. Challenge Trophy
Referee: Oldham, James
Assistant Referee: Chard, Michael
Assistant Referee: Farrer, Shaun
Fourth Official: Walker, Greig
Eastbourne Borough FC (First Team) v Dorchester Town FC (First
Team)
F.A. Challenge Trophy
Referee: Buonassisi, Matty Bishop, Tom
Assistant Referee: Emery, Alexander
Assistant Referee: Pollington, Matthew
Fourth Official: Lowe, Peter
Ebbsfleet United FC (First Team) v Dagenham & Redbridge FC
(First Team)
F.A. Challenge Trophy
Referee: Reeves, Tom
Assistant Referee: Knox, Darren
Assistant Referee: Head, Ryan
Fourth Official: Myatt, Christopher
Harrogate Town FC (First Team) v YORK CITY (First Team)
F.A. Challenge Trophy
Referee: Dicicco, Matthew
Assistant Referee: Brown, Conor
Assistant Referee: Duckworth, Edward
Fourth Official: Tankard, Anthony Carr, David
Hemel Hempstead Town FC (First Team) v Eastleigh FC (First Team)
F.A. Challenge Trophy
Referee: Wood, Lloyd
Assistant Referee: Danaher, Tom
Assistant Referee: Ellsmore, Tom
Fourth Official: Warren, George
Hereford FC (First Team) v Billericay Town (First Team)
F.A. Challenge Trophy
Referee: Howes, Mark
Assistant Referee: Genders, Andrew
Assistant Referee: Davies, Reece
Fourth Official: Barrow, Simon Cockle, Robert
Lancaster City FC or Guiseley AFC (First Team) v Blyth Spartans
AFC (First Team)
F.A. Challenge Trophy
Referee: Jackson, Aaron
Assistant Referee: Burrows, Michael Hawksby, Nicholas
Assistant Referee: Clark, Alex
Fourth Official: Hart, Glen
Leamington FC (First Team) v Hartlepool United FC (First Team)
F.A. Challenge Trophy
Referee: Doughty, Leigh
Assistant Referee: Chalkley, Scott
Assistant Referee: Walker, Timothy
Fourth Official: Williams, Ollie
Leyton Orient FC (First Team) v Beaconsfield Town FC (First
Team)
F.A. Challenge Trophy
Referee: Finnie, Will
Assistant Referee: Evans, Paul
Assistant Referee: Bradley, Alexander
Fourth Official: Pope, Jamie
Maidenhead United FC (First Team) v Oxford City FC (First Team)
F.A. Challenge Trophy
Referee: Brook, Carl
Assistant Referee: Bennett, Andy
Assistant Referee: Loe, Andy
Fourth Official: Morris, Richard
Salford City FC (First Team) v Gateshead FC (First Team)
F.A. Challenge Trophy
Referee: Rhodes, Garreth
Assistant Referee: Hull, Alan
Assistant Referee: Burgess, Adam
Fourth Official: Hitchell, Daniel
Salisbury FC (First Team) v Braintree Town FC (First Team)
F.A. Challenge Trophy
Referee: Atkin, Ryan T
Assistant Referee: Cox, Robin
Assistant Referee: Begley, Michael
Fourth Official: BAKER, Adam
Southport FC (First Team) v Solihull Moors FC (First Team)
F.A. Challenge Trophy
Referee: Kitchen, Andrew
Assistant Referee: Scholes, Matthew
Assistant Referee: Turner, Iain
Fourth Official: Porter, Christopher
Spennymoor Town FC (First Team) v Barwell FC (First Team)
F.A. Challenge Trophy
Referee: Smith, Lewis
Assistant Referee: Topp, Jake
Assistant Referee: Salmons, Kieron
Fourth Official: East, Matthew
Truro City FC (First Team) v Weston Super Mare FC (First Team)
F.A. Challenge Trophy
Referee: Staynings, Philip
Assistant Referee: Clench, Jack
Assistant Referee: Smith, Roger
Fourth Official: Robertson, Scott
Weymouth FC (First Team) v Needham Market F.C. (First Team)
F.A. Challenge Trophy
Referee: Lamport, Daniel
Assistant Referee: Kane, Stuart
Assistant Referee: Harris, Adrian
Fourth Official: Flynn, Daniel
Wingate & Finchley FC (First Team) v Dulwich Hamlet (First Team)
F.A. Challenge Trophy
Referee: Cartmel, Wayne
Assistant Referee: Higgs, Alastair
Assistant Referee: Bolland, Jonathan
Fourth Official: Pope, Anthony
Woking FC (First Team) v Maidstone United FC (First Team)
F.A. Challenge Trophy
Referee: Quelch, Adrian
Assistant Referee: Vallance, James
Assistant Referee: Ablitt, Robert
Fourth Official: Small, Barrie
Workington AFC (First Team) v Ramsbottom United FC (First Team)
F.A. Challenge Trophy
Referee: Barrott, Samuel
Assistant Referee: Holbrook, David
Assistant Referee: Sinclair, Leslie
Fourth Official: Hopper, Graeme
Wrexham FC (First Team) v Boston United FC (CoE) (First Team)
F.A. Challenge Trophy
Referee: Mather, Simon
Assistant Referee: Sowerby, Matthew
Assistant Referee: Fryer, Martyn
Fourth Official: Maskrey, Jonathan
#Post#: 3338--------------------------------------------------
Re: The FA Buildbase FA Trophy First Round Proper (Sat 15th -
Tue 18th DEC 2018)
DIR By: aaa
Date: December 15, 2018, 7:11 pm
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Still to play
Tue 18th Dec 2018
Maidenhead United FC (First Team) v Oxford City FC (First Team)
F.A. Challenge Trophy
Referee: Smith, Josh
Assistant Referee: Smith, Michael
Assistant Referee: Greaves, Tristan
Fourth Official: Cresswell, Alan
Salford City FC (First Team) v Gateshead FC (First Team)
F.A. Challenge Trophy
Referee: Rhodes, Garreth
Assistant Referee: Hull, Alan
Assistant Referee: Burgess, Adam
Fourth Official: Brown, Adam
Weymouth FC (First Team) v Needham Market F.C. (First Team)
F.A. Challenge Trophy
Referee: Lamport, Daniel
Assistant Referee: Kane, Stuart
Assistant Referee: Harris, Adrian
Fourth Official: Whitfield, Nigel
Replays
Tue 18th Dec 2018
Bedford Town (First Team) v Aldershot Town FC (First Team)
F.A. Challenge Trophy
Referee: Rock, David
Assistant Referee: Jerden, Gary
Assistant Referee: Harrison, David
Fourth Official: Crofts, Joshua
Havant & Waterlooville FC (First Team) v Dover Athletic FC
(First Team)
F.A. Challenge Trophy
Referee: Middleton, Daniel
Assistant Referee: Marks, Louis
Assistant Referee: Desborough, Mike
Fourth Official: Robinson, James
Maidstone United FC (First Team) v Woking FC (First Team)
F.A. Challenge Trophy
Referee: Brook, Carl
Assistant Referee: Bandara, Damith
Assistant Referee: Evans, Robert
Fourth Official: Dempster, Kane
Ramsbottom United FC (First Team) v Workington AFC (First Team)
F.A. Challenge Trophy
Referee: Jackson, Aaron
Assistant Referee: Griffiths, Luis
Assistant Referee: Herzog, Michael
Fourth Official: Johnson, Kieran
Salisbury FC (First Team) v Braintree Town FC (First Team)
F.A. Challenge Trophy
Referee: Hughes, Steven
Assistant Referee: Scriven, Craig
Assistant Referee: Begley, Michael
Fourth Official: BAKER, Adam
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Re: The FA Buildbase FA Trophy First Round Proper (Sat 15th -
Tue 18th DEC 2018)
DIR By: JohnCoyle
Date: December 18, 2018, 3:26 am
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Weymouth v Needham Market won't be happening. Needham Market
have scratched because they don't have enough players available,
which seems an odd situation for a team playing in the FA
Trophy.
Also Aldershot have so many first-teamers unavailable they are
sending their Youth Team to Bedford (now that sort of
information could help you clean up at the bookies!)
#Post#: 3391--------------------------------------------------
Re: The FA Buildbase FA Trophy First Round Proper (Sat 15th -
Tue 18th DEC 2018)
DIR By: TVOS
Date: December 18, 2018, 6:37 am
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--- Quote from: JohnCoyle link ---
>
> Weymouth v Needham Market won't be happening. Needham Market
have scratched because they don't have enough players available,
which seems an odd situation for a team playing in the FA
Trophy.
>
> Also Aldershot have so many first-teamers unavailable they are
sending their Youth Team to Bedford (now that sort of
information could help you clean up at the bookies!)
>
--- End Quote ---
Why dont they just supplement the first teamers they do have
with youth players, like other teams do on a regular basis?
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Re: The FA Buildbase FA Trophy First Round Proper (Sat 15th -
Tue 18th DEC 2018)
DIR By: nemesis
Date: December 18, 2018, 8:34 am
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--- Quote from: TVOS link ---
>
> [quote author=JohnCoyle link=topic=380.msg3385#msg3385
date=1545125162]
> Weymouth v Needham Market won't be happening. Needham Market
have scratched because they don't have enough players available,
which seems an odd situation for a team playing in the FA
Trophy.
>
> Also Aldershot have so many first-teamers unavailable they are
sending their Youth Team to Bedford (now that sort of
information could help you clean up at the bookies!)
>
--- End Quote ---
Why dont they just supplement the first teamers they do have
with youth players, like other teams do on a regular basis?
[/quote]
The local view:
HTML https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/wilkins-slams-football-asscociation-and-weymouth-after-needham-s-forced-withdrawal-from-fa-trophy-1-5821671
and
Further to a hastily convened committee meeting on today's date
we wish to record our clubs position with regard to the
rearrangement of our FA Trophy fixture against Weymouth FC.
We consider that it is completely unreasonable to attempt to
play this fixture on Tuesday 18th December.
Our players and staff had to take a half day's leave from their
employment on Friday 14th December to travel down to Weymouth.
For us to request that our players and staff take a further one
and a half or two days leave on Tuesday and Wednesday (18th
/19th December) in the week preceding Xmas is considered unfair
on them and their employers.
Having experienced the travelling time on Friday / Saturday
(14th / 15th) which resulted in a journey slightly in excess of
seven hours each way, it would be necessary to leave Needham
Market at 11.00 am on Tuesday 18th and arrive back at the club
at approximately 05.30 am on the morning of Wednesday 19th.
Factor in that a number of our players reside in north Norfolk,
this would result in additional travelling in excess of one hour
for those players, which makes it apparent that two days holiday
would be required for them.
In addition, and after looking at the weather forecast for the
South coast area, it is extremely likely that the match will,
once again, be postponed.
In view of the above we therefore request that the match is
played on Saturday 22nd or 29th December. Should the 29th be
preferable to Weymouth, and in view of the fact that date for
subsequent matches in this tournament is mid-January we offer to
play the match to conclusion (extra time & penalties) should it
be necessary. This offer will not apply should the fixture be
rearranged for the 22nd.
We consider that this decision fails to take account of the
practical problems that would be incurred and, in addition,
fails to display even a basic level of common sense. If rules
are to be applied in such an unconsidered manner then the FA
Panel should be replaced by a computer !
Co-operation from Weymouth which has sadly been lacking plus
making the necessary arrangements with the Evostick League would
have enabled the fixture to proceed as per our proposals but
unfortunately self interest has prevailed.
Apologies, once again and thank you in anticipation of your
ongoing support.
Some valid points there.
#Post#: 3409--------------------------------------------------
Re: The FA Buildbase FA Trophy First Round Proper (Sat 15th -
Tue 18th DEC 2018)
DIR By: RCG
Date: December 19, 2018, 2:08 am
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I think both the club and the manager make very valid points.
Travel times at this time of year are always higher than you
expect with weather and shoppers, plus the short notice to get
time off is a very important point, players have other full time
commitments. A disappointing result.
#Post#: 3410--------------------------------------------------
Re: The FA Buildbase FA Trophy First Round Proper (Sat 15th -
Tue 18th DEC 2018)
DIR By: nemesis
Date: December 19, 2018, 3:16 am
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--- Quote from: RCG link ---
>
> I think both the club and the manager make very valid points.
Travel times at this time of year are always higher than you
expect with weather and shoppers, plus the short notice to get
time off is a very important point, players have other full time
commitments. A disappointing result.
>
--- End Quote ---
Yes, poor, as usual, from the FA.
Ironically, it would almost certainly have been called off again
but probably not until they were well on their way.
They did manage to pick up 3 points last night in their
re-instated home league match with Redditch.
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Re: The FA Buildbase FA Trophy First Round Proper (Sat 15th -
Tue 18th DEC 2018)
DIR By: RCG
Date: December 19, 2018, 6:09 am
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Every cloud.....
#Post#: 3416--------------------------------------------------
Re: The FA Buildbase FA Trophy First Round Proper (Sat 15th -
Tue 18th DEC 2018)
DIR By: rustyref
Date: December 19, 2018, 11:43 am
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Not sure what the alternative was though. If you enter a
national competition you know you could face long journeys,
potentially midweek in the event of replays / postponed games.
The FA Trophy rule on postponements makes it clear what happens
if a Saturday game is postponed, as below
[I](c) First matches which are Postponed
(i) When a first match has been postponed, it shall be played on
the same ground on or before the following Thursday.[/I]
So it couldn't be played the following Saturday, even taking
aside the fact that both teams would have league games scheduled
that day anyway, so the only option is midweek. Will be
interesting to see whether The FA accept their reason for
withdrawal as reasonable, as otherwise they will be banned from
next year's competition.
[I](c) If a Club decides to withdraw from the Competition after
a drawn, postponed or abandoned match, notice must be given to
The Association and its opponent at the end of the match.
(d) A Club failing to give satisfactory reason for withdrawing
from the Competition shall in addition to any other action
considered appropriate not be allowed to enter the Competition
in the following season[/I]
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Re: The FA Buildbase FA Trophy First Round Proper (Sat 15th -
Tue 18th DEC 2018)
DIR By: AFAref
Date: December 19, 2018, 2:37 pm
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I think the competition rules need to be looked at.
The FA vase manages to allow next Saturday replays, and it
doesn't matter what mileage is involved after the 2nd round.
This was shown in the Tring Athletic Vs Biggleswade tie which
was played the Saturday after yet both teams are in the same
league and could have effectively played each other midweek. As
it was, the replayed date was the same day they were due to face
each other in the league
I believe that teams should travel no more than 150 miles round
trip midweek in any round for the trophy or vase, unless
mutually agreed. If leagues have to postpone games then so be
it.
I appreciate the Trophy is the senior non league competition but
there are still very semi pro teams in it.
The other option would be to allow teams in step 4 to either
enter the trophy or vase. but I feel that would be unfair to
step 5 sides. of course there is an argument that it's unfair
for step 4 teams playing full time outfits as well
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