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Re: England v Hungary - Clement Turpin
DIR By: Acme Thunderer
Date: June 17, 2022, 4:05 am
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Q - does Stones have to serve an international suspension of one
or more competitive games? And if Turpin realised that he had
made a mistake, could any suspension not be overturned?
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Re: England v Hungary - Clement Turpin
DIR By: TVOS
Date: June 17, 2022, 5:34 am
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--- Quote from: bmb link ---
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> [quote author=Wollongong Ref link=topic=3789.msg49674#msg49674
date=1655350401]
> A clear shot at me BMB? The behaviour of the English fans is
equally appalling and certainly two wrongs do not make a right.
Just 2 wrongs
>
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No actually it was a more general observation that so many were
so quick to jump up and down and shout how disgraceful ALL
Hungarians are, they should be banned for life yadda yadda -
several threads across the forum about it, headlines in all the
papers about it, pundits yapping on non stop about it, despite
it being a minority of the fans that let us down when we play
England - it doesn't happen in other games except v Romania
which is a whole different kettle of fish & based on centuries
of bad blood between the 2 nations. Then you get England v
Germany - England fans arrested for doing nazi salutes, England
fans thrown out of bars for singing anti German songs, England
fans arrested for being drunk and disorderly and fighting,
England fans arrested for chanting nazis at any German person
they saw - several incidences of utterly disgraceful behaviour
and where is the same energy in condemning that? There was none,
yet 'but the Hungarians are the real problem'... England fans
booing a national anthem and chanting the whole way through,
silence yet again - no condemnation for that. England fans &
media ironically calling Hungarians racist, yet there are more
complaints and arrests for racist behaviour in England in a week
than there is in Hungary across a year. One of the classic media
headlines after this game England 0 Racists 4 and the picture
accompanying it was Loïc Négo leading the celebrations, he's a
black man, born in Paris and of Guadeloupean descent who is so
'appalled' by the racism in Hungary that he applied for
Hungarian citizenship as soon as he had lived there for 5 years
and now proudly represents Hungary at international level - he's
absolutely loved in Hungary. No mention in that report of the
English fans behaviour. Still I suppose it's ok as it wasn't
only our national anthem they disrespected as they also sang 'no
surrender' during God save the queen! Yet apparently we are the
only ones with a problem! We do have some appalling individuals
in our fanbase, we don't deny that & the sooner the MLSZ grow a
pair and ban the Carpathian brigade the better.
[/quote]
When you say there are more complaints and arrests in England
than Hungary, is that percentage wise?
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Re: England v Hungary - Clement Turpin
DIR By: Seagull
Date: June 17, 2022, 10:36 am
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--- Quote from: Acme Thunderer link ---
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> Q - does Stones have to serve an international suspension of
one or more competitive games? And if Turpin realised that he
had made a mistake, could any suspension not be overturned?
>
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I would assume he will serve a 1 match suspension (2 x YCs). I
doubt there's any chance of it being rescinded.
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Re: England v Hungary - Clement Turpin
DIR By: bmb
Date: June 20, 2022, 2:03 pm
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--- Quote from: rustyref link ---
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> I think one big difference though is it is very rare to see
racism inside an English stadium now.
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According to police crime statistics it happens on a weekly
basis, often multiple times - your definition of rare is very
different to mine obviously.
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Re: England v Hungary - Clement Turpin
DIR By: bmb
Date: June 20, 2022, 2:05 pm
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--- Quote from: TVOS link ---
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>
> When you say there are more complaints and arrests in England
than Hungary, is that percentage wise?
>
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Yes
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Re: England v Hungary - Clement Turpin
DIR By: TVOS
Date: June 20, 2022, 4:12 pm
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--- Quote from: bmb link ---
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> [quote author=TVOS link=topic=3789.msg49684#msg49684
date=1655462095]
>
> When you say there are more complaints and arrests in England
than Hungary, is that percentage wise?
>
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Yes
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Thanks
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