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       #Post#: 49764--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Retirement
   DIR By: Carter
       Date: June 22, 2022, 5:07 am
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       --- Quote from: ARF link ---
       >
       > Been appointed as SG2 Manager apparently
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Good luck to him, but I am curious as to how many management
       positions the PGMOL have, or is it a way of keeping them on the
       books beacuse they cant get rid of them.
       Am I right in saying that Atkinson, Moss and now friend have now
       got other roles, along with Mason, who did these roles before?
       I do think the whole management of the PGMOL is coming home to
       roost with the retirements and the lack of others being given
       opportunities to get game at this level, with Harrington and
       others in the past being promoted and given few games.
       #Post#: 49767--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Retirement
   DIR By: bmb
       Date: June 22, 2022, 7:49 am
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       --- Quote from: Carter link ---
       >
       > [quote author=ARF link=topic=3765.msg49749#msg49749
       date=1655829301]
       > Been appointed as SG2 Manager apparently
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Good luck to him, but I am curious as to how many management
       positions the PGMOL have, or is it a way of keeping them on the
       books beacuse they cant get rid of them.
       Am I right in saying that Atkinson, Moss and now friend have now
       got other roles, along with Mason, who did these roles before?
       I do think the whole management of the PGMOL is coming home to
       roost with the retirements and the lack of others being given
       opportunities to get game at this level, with Harrington and
       others in the past being promoted and given few games.
       [/quote]
       The article states it's a newly created role so take from that
       what you want!
       Friend will continue to work for PGMOL in the newly-created post
       of manager of the “Select Group 2” referees – those who take
       charge of games in the Championship.
       #Post#: 49768--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Retirement
   DIR By: ajb95
       Date: June 22, 2022, 8:11 am
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       --- Quote from: bmb link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Carter link=topic=3765.msg49764#msg49764
       date=1655892441]
       > [quote author=ARF link=topic=3765.msg49749#msg49749
       date=1655829301]
       > Been appointed as SG2 Manager apparently
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Good luck to him, but I am curious as to how many management
       positions the PGMOL have, or is it a way of keeping them on the
       books beacuse they cant get rid of them.
       Am I right in saying that Atkinson, Moss and now friend have now
       got other roles, along with Mason, who did these roles before?
       I do think the whole management of the PGMOL is coming home to
       roost with the retirements and the lack of others being given
       opportunities to get game at this level, with Harrington and
       others in the past being promoted and given few games.
       [/quote]
       The article states it's a newly created role so take from that
       what you want!
       Friend will continue to work for PGMOL in the newly-created post
       of manager of the “Select Group 2” referees – those who take
       charge of games in the Championship.
       [/quote]
       I thought that was Mike Jones’s job?
       🤷‍♀️😅
       #Post#: 49769--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Retirement
   DIR By: bmb
       Date: June 22, 2022, 8:49 am
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       There will be more chiefs than Indians at this rate!
       #Post#: 49774--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Retirement
   DIR By: Ashington46
       Date: June 22, 2022, 9:53 am
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       --- Quote from: bmb link ---
       >
       > There will be more chiefs than Indians at this rate!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Too true, however, my question is:- In common with almost every
       other job going these days ---do you have to possess a degree to
       become a PGMOL manager ----or even to become a referee these
       days? If not ---why not? [emoji1]
       #Post#: 49775--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Retirement
   DIR By: bmb
       Date: June 22, 2022, 10:37 am
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       --- Quote from: Ashington46 link ---
       >
       > [quote author=bmb link=topic=3765.msg49769#msg49769
       date=1655905747]
       > There will be more chiefs than Indians at this rate!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Too true, however, my question is:- In common with almost every
       other job going these days ---do you have to possess a degree to
       become a PGMOL manager ----or even to become a referee these
       days? If not ---why not? [emoji1]
       [/quote]
       Joking aside there is a degree they do at the University of
       Gloucestershire, postgraduate level focused on match officiating
       and professional practice in refereeing. It's part of the exit
       from refereeing development and started about 8-10 years ago
       now.
       #Post#: 49776--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Retirement
   DIR By: rustyref
       Date: June 22, 2022, 11:46 am
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       They advertised the new role externally, but whether that was
       only because they legally have to is anyone's guess.
       Not refereeing specific, but I've long been a believer that
       "subject matter experts" often don't make good managers.
       Promoting SG1 referees to management positions is bit like
       promoting someone who has been in a technical role all their
       life to a manager, it often doesn't end well.
       #Post#: 49778--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Retirement
   DIR By: SuffolkRef
       Date: June 22, 2022, 11:51 am
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       --- Quote from: ajb95 link ---
       >
       > [quote author=bmb link=topic=3765.msg49767#msg49767
       date=1655902146]
       > [quote author=Carter link=topic=3765.msg49764#msg49764
       date=1655892441]
       > [quote author=ARF link=topic=3765.msg49749#msg49749
       date=1655829301]
       > Been appointed as SG2 Manager apparently
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Good luck to him, but I am curious as to how many management
       positions the PGMOL have, or is it a way of keeping them on the
       books beacuse they cant get rid of them.
       Am I right in saying that Atkinson, Moss and now friend have now
       got other roles, along with Mason, who did these roles before?
       I do think the whole management of the PGMOL is coming home to
       roost with the retirements and the lack of others being given
       opportunities to get game at this level, with Harrington and
       others in the past being promoted and given few games.
       [/quote]
       The article states it's a newly created role so take from that
       what you want!
       Friend will continue to work for PGMOL in the newly-created post
       of manager of the “Select Group 2” referees – those who take
       charge of games in the Championship.
       [/quote]
       I thought that was Mike Jones’s job?
       🤷‍♀️😅
       [/quote]
       Mike Jones was responsible for the National Group.  The last I
       heard was that Alan Wiley was involved with SG2 (Director of
       SG2).
       #Post#: 49782--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Retirement
   DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
       Date: June 22, 2022, 2:07 pm
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       Is Grandad Walton involved anywhere anymore?
       #Post#: 49789--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Retirement
   DIR By: bmb
       Date: June 22, 2022, 2:35 pm
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       --- Quote from: TheThingFromLewes link ---
       >
       > Is Grandad Walton involved anywhere anymore?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       He's been over in the USA for a few years now, as far as I am
       aware anyway!
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