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       #Post#: 49564--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Retirement
   DIR By: bmb
       Date: June 10, 2022, 6:49 am
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       Bobby Madden has ended his FIFA/UEFA career
       #Post#: 49565--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Retirement
   DIR By: tomp
       Date: June 10, 2022, 8:31 am
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       --- Quote from: Observeref8 link ---
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       > If there is demotions on the SG2 group which I’m all for if
       people are not performing from games you seen who would you not
       be surprised to see sent to L1/L2?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I wouldn’t be surprised if any of Ward, Simpson, Langford and
       Martin were demoted. Possibly, Andy Woolmer due to his age, if
       they are looking to make the group a bit younger.
       In previous seasons, I have noticed assistants Darren Blunden,
       Geoff Russell and Mark Jones all moved from Select Group 2 to
       the National List. Maybe that was to blood in some younger
       assistants. Perhaps- they are now looking to do the same with
       the referees.
       #Post#: 49568--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Retirement
   DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
       Date: June 10, 2022, 12:49 pm
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       --- Quote from: tomp link ---
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       > [quote author=Observeref8 link=topic=3765.msg49560#msg49560
       date=1654832443]
       > If there is demotions on the SG2 group which I’m all for if
       people are not performing from games you seen who would you not
       be surprised to see sent to L1/L2?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I wouldn’t be surprised if any of Ward, Simpson, Langford and
       Martin were demoted. Possibly, Andy Woolmer due to his age, if
       they are looking to make the group a bit younger.
       In previous seasons, I have noticed assistants Darren Blunden,
       Geoff Russell and Mark Jones all moved from Select Group 2 to
       the National List. Maybe that was to blood in some younger
       assistants. Perhaps- they are now looking to do the same with
       the referees.
       [/quote]
       Smallwood went from SG1 to NL in one season….
       #Post#: 49569--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Retirement
   DIR By: Readingfan
       Date: June 10, 2022, 1:23 pm
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       --- Quote from: rustyref link ---
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       > [quote author=Badger link=topic=3765.msg49552#msg49552
       date=1654799387]
       > Talking about retirements, do we know of any demotions….
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I would hazard a guess that is why the NL to SG2 referee
       promotions haven't been announced, one or more have been demoted
       and are appealing it.  Can't see any other reason why one
       particular level would be held back from being announced.
       But demotions will never be published, you will only find out
       once the next season's lists are announced.  Same as any work
       situation, comms go out when people are promoted but you will
       never see a work email or Yammer post saying that Joe Bloggs has
       unfortunately been demoted due to his poor work performance.
       [/quote]
       Is it possible some people haven't completed the promotion
       assessment yet? We discussed on another thread a referee getting
       Covid around the time of their fitness test. I guess a delay
       like that could prevent the process being fully completed -
       although of course it's possible there might be a limit on how
       long they're prepared to wait.
       #Post#: 49586--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Retirement
   DIR By: ajb95
       Date: June 11, 2022, 9:38 am
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       --- Quote from: bmb link ---
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       > Bobby Madden has ended his FIFA/UEFA career
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       An excellent referee but wasn’t going to be elite, chance for
       Nick Walsh to progress
       #Post#: 49590--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Retirement
   DIR By: bmb
       Date: June 11, 2022, 10:55 am
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       --- Quote from: ajb95 link ---
       >
       > [quote author=bmb link=topic=3765.msg49564#msg49564
       date=1654861790]
       > Bobby Madden has ended his FIFA/UEFA career
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       An excellent referee but wasn’t going to be elite, chance for
       Nick Walsh to progress
       [/quote]
       Not seen much of Nick Walsh but he was excellent in Hungary last
       season. Barely noticed him. He looks a great prospect though.
       #Post#: 49611--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Retirement
   DIR By: Jackinthebox
       Date: June 11, 2022, 7:07 pm
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       --- Quote from: bmb link ---
       >
       > [quote author=ajb95 link=topic=3765.msg49586#msg49586
       date=1654958307]
       > [quote author=bmb link=topic=3765.msg49564#msg49564
       date=1654861790]
       > Bobby Madden has ended his FIFA/UEFA career
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       An excellent referee but wasn’t going to be elite, chance for
       Nick Walsh to progress
       [/quote]
       Not seen much of Nick Walsh but he was excellent in Hungary last
       season. Barely noticed him. He looks a great prospect though.
       [/quote]
       As a follower of Rangers I think Madden is the best in Scotland
       by some distance. I would also put Beaton and Walsh ahead of
       Collum from what I've seen in the SPL despite Collum being
       classed in the elite category by UEFA.
       #Post#: 49631--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Retirement
   DIR By: Steelman
       Date: June 13, 2022, 6:00 am
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       --- Quote from: bmb link ---
       >
       > [quote author=ajb95 link=topic=3765.msg49586#msg49586
       date=1654958307]
       > [quote author=bmb link=topic=3765.msg49564#msg49564
       date=1654861790]
       > Bobby Madden has ended his FIFA/UEFA career
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       An excellent referee but wasn’t going to be elite, chance for
       Nick Walsh to progress
       [/quote]
       Not seen much of Nick Walsh but he was excellent in Hungary last
       season. Barely noticed him. He looks a great prospect though.
       [/quote]
       In my opinion Nick Walsh is by far the best we have in Scotland
       as things currently stand. Feel his foul detection and game
       management is top class. If we are to get another Elite FIFA ref
       to replace Willie it will be Nick Walsh I reckon
       #Post#: 49692--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Retirement
   DIR By: WaitAndSee
       Date: June 17, 2022, 10:44 am
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       Bobby Madden, who some of you may know from his work as a
       referee in the SPL, has recently relocated to England due to his
       work commitments. As he transfers from the Scottish FA, he will
       join the National Group of referees for the 2022/23 season.
       #Post#: 49696--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Retirement
   DIR By: Failed Ref
       Date: June 17, 2022, 11:55 am
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       Good luck to Bobby. New job demands and new leagues. BBC reports
       Division 1 & 2. They also say that he has recovered from Thyroid
       cancer suffered a few years ago which I did not know, so double
       good luck this forthcoming season. There is more to life than
       football and referee decisions.
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