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       #Post#: 49195--------------------------------------------------
       Re: French Police and UEFA
   DIR By: jacksamuel21
       Date: June 1, 2022, 12:09 pm
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       I disagree with the fact about ticketless fans travelling to the
       City is bad. There was no trouble whatsoever involving Liverpool
       supporters at any of the 3 previous European cup finals they
       went to. Also no issues at all in away European games. Yet they
       come out saying Liverpool fans have a bad reputation.
       Yes their probably where liverpool fans trying to get into the
       ground without tickets but also there where Madrid fans and
       locals trying to get in.
       --- Quote from: rustyref link ---
       >
       > There's also a video of Liverpool fans mounting a violent and
       totally unprovoked attack on a Madrid supporter.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       If we are talking about the same incident you can see him for a
       start being in the Liverpool fan zone and secondly doing a Nazi
       solute.
       #Post#: 49197--------------------------------------------------
       Re: French Police and UEFA
   DIR By: Hertsref123
       Date: June 1, 2022, 12:20 pm
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       --- Quote from: jacksamuel21 link ---
       >
       > I disagree with the fact about ticketless fans travelling to
       the City is bad. There was no trouble whatsoever involving
       Liverpool supporters at any of the 3 previous European cup
       finals they went to. Also no issues at all in away European
       games. Yet they come out saying Liverpool fans have a bad
       reputation.
       >
       > Yes their probably where liverpool fans trying to get into the
       ground without tickets but also there where Madrid fans and
       locals trying to get in.
       >
       > [quote author=rustyref link=topic=3755.msg49192#msg49192
       date=1654102871]
       > There's also a video of Liverpool fans mounting a violent and
       totally unprovoked attack on a Madrid supporter.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       If we are talking about the same incident you can see him for a
       start being in the Liverpool fan zone and secondly doing a Nazi
       solute.
       [/quote]
       Not quite true remember in athens 2007, where yet again
       thousands of liverpool fans turned up with no tickets, causing
       similar scenes to what we saw last week.
       #Post#: 49199--------------------------------------------------
       Re: French Police and UEFA
   DIR By: jacksamuel21
       Date: June 1, 2022, 1:58 pm
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       --- Quote from: Hertsref123 link ---
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       > [quote author=jacksamuel21 link=topic=3755.msg49195#msg49195
       date=1654103394]
       > I disagree with the fact about ticketless fans travelling to
       the City is bad. There was no trouble whatsoever involving
       Liverpool supporters at any of the 3 previous European cup
       finals they went to. Also no issues at all in away European
       games. Yet they come out saying Liverpool fans have a bad
       reputation.
       >
       > Yes their probably where liverpool fans trying to get into the
       ground without tickets but also there where Madrid fans and
       locals trying to get in.
       >
       > [quote author=rustyref link=topic=3755.msg49192#msg49192
       date=1654102871]
       > There's also a video of Liverpool fans mounting a violent and
       totally unprovoked attack on a Madrid supporter.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       If we are talking about the same incident you can see him for a
       start being in the Liverpool fan zone and secondly doing a Nazi
       solute.
       [/quote]
       Not quite true remember in athens 2007, where yet again
       thousands of liverpool fans turned up with no tickets, causing
       similar scenes to what we saw last week.
       [/quote]
       There is no evidence of it happening last week though. Athens
       there was.
       #Post#: 49230--------------------------------------------------
       Re: French Police and UEFA
   DIR By: ajb95
       Date: June 2, 2022, 5:37 am
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       My Uncle and Cousin were at the game and joined the queue 150
       minutes before they were supposed to arrive, as were 2 of my
       friends. They claim (with photgraphic proof) that local Parisien
       gangs turned up (some with knives stuffed down their trousers) -
       some in Liverpool tops over a PSG shirt - with counterfeit
       tickets (just with a QR code). They then jumped the queue, and
       tried to scan their fake ticket. This created a lot of issues as
       1. they aren't genuine Liverpool fans (accent, clothing); 2.
       they held up the queue; 3. they then tried to force their way in
       causing further delays, and a response from the French policing.
       When my cousin and Uncle got in 15 minutes after KO, they found
       the 3 French lads in the stadium, sat in someone else's seat!
       Yes, whilst Liverpool fans are no sinners, the whole thing was
       down to poor stewarding and heavy handed policing, who had no
       idea how to run an event. They then decided to start spraying
       fans with tear gas, which is totally unacceptable. The Police
       should have been moving these fans to one side and trying to
       worm out the fake ticketers and gang members jumping the queue.
       From experience though, this is typical behaviour from the
       French Police, and the administrators of both the Stade de
       France and the ticketing company need a full enquiry.
       #Post#: 49288--------------------------------------------------
       Re: French Police and UEFA
   DIR By: jacksamuel21
       Date: June 4, 2022, 5:15 am
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       There was more trouble getting everyone into the stadium last
       night for France vs Denmark with thousands of fans left outside
       the stadium. The design of the stadium really is poor as is the
       organisation of the French authorities. Many people reported
       that the turnstiles where not working again.
       #Post#: 50095--------------------------------------------------
       Re: French Police and UEFA
   DIR By: bmb
       Date: July 13, 2022, 9:16 am
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  HTML https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62146769
       A French inquiry into the security fiasco at the Uefa Champions
       League final in Paris in May has found that it was caused by a
       catalogue of administrative errors and failings.
       The French government initially blamed Liverpool fans and fake
       tickets for the crowd chaos that led to supporters being
       tear-gassed and robbed.
       But a Senate report has found authorities blamed them unfairly.
       Dysfunctional mistakes were made at every level, it said.
       Full details at above link.
       #Post#: 50096--------------------------------------------------
       Re: French Police and UEFA
   DIR By: akwoo
       Date: July 13, 2022, 11:03 am
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       What does the whole of this thread have to do with "rating
       referees"?
       #Post#: 50098--------------------------------------------------
       Re: French Police and UEFA
   DIR By: bmb
       Date: July 13, 2022, 1:17 pm
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       --- Quote from: akwoo link ---
       >
       > What does the whole of this thread have to do with "rating
       referees"?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       This is a separate section of the board for non refereeing
       things -hence the title club chat.  We might all be referees or
       retired referees but we we are also football fans in general.
       It's kept separate for those who only want to talk refereeing.
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