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       Re: UEFA Nations League 2022/23 
   DIR By: BabyRef
       Date: September 25, 2022, 2:58 pm
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       With the World Cup just a few weeks away, I can see the benefit
       of keeping the Elite referees away from the top teams who they
       might be due to referee.
       I remember they used to do that for international friendlies
       just before a major competition (which is essentially what this
       round of fixtures is) - you'd often get officials who weren't
       going to the tournament doing the big games
       #Post#: 52999--------------------------------------------------
       Re: UEFA Nations League 2022/23 
   DIR By: bmb
       Date: September 25, 2022, 3:44 pm
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       Baffles me people keep referring to these games as nothing more
       than friendlies considering the direct impact they have on Euro
       2024.
       István was outstanding in his match - really outstanding not
       just my rose tints outstanding! Even the commentators were
       praising him.
       #Post#: 53069--------------------------------------------------
       Re: UEFA Nations League 2022/23 
   DIR By: Tweed
       Date: September 27, 2022, 4:55 am
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       Absolutely, the rewards for Scotland of not losing tonight are
       huge.  Guarantees a play off for Euro 2024.  Also puts us in pot
       2 so means we cannot draw England and France.  And would put us
       into Group A so likely to get some big teams at Hampden which
       commercially could be very lucrative, and while I accept we
       probably won't survive in Group A the short term publicity of
       being in it could be huge.  This is a great competition for
       countries like us as it gives us more to hit at.  However given
       every defender we have is injured, I think we could be
       struggling!
       #Post#: 53074--------------------------------------------------
       Re: UEFA Nations League 2022/23 
   DIR By: Acme Thunderer
       Date: September 27, 2022, 8:37 am
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       ENGLAND - GERMANY
       Referee: Danny Makkelie (NED)
       Assistant Referee 1: Hessel Steegstra (NED)
       Assistant Referee 2: Jan de Vries (NED)
       Fourth Official: Sander Van Der Eijk (NED)
       Video Assistant Referee:
       Assistant Video Assistant Referee:
       UEFA Referee Observer: Christopher Lautier (MLT)
       UEFA Delegate: Eduard Dervishaj Nelaj (ESP)
       Referee Liaison Officer: Adam Kenton (ENG)
       I only saw the 2nd half of this and what a 45 minutes it was. I
       thought Danny Makkelie was superb, always in control, used VAR
       as it should be, played a super advantage when England broke out
       of midfield and generally contributed to an exciting half. (PS.
       Am I alone in thinking that he he looks just like Arnold
       Shwarzenegger as 'The Terminator'?!)
       #Post#: 53076--------------------------------------------------
       Re: UEFA Nations League 2022/23 
   DIR By: bmb
       Date: September 27, 2022, 9:09 am
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       --- Quote from: Acme Thunderer link ---
       >
       > ENGLAND - GERMANY
       > Referee: Danny Makkelie (NED)
       > Assistant Referee 1: Hessel Steegstra (NED)
       > Assistant Referee 2: Jan de Vries (NED)
       > Fourth Official: Sander Van Der Eijk (NED)
       > Video Assistant Referee:
       > Assistant Video Assistant Referee:
       > UEFA Referee Observer: Christopher Lautier (MLT)
       > UEFA Delegate: Eduard Dervishaj Nelaj (ESP)
       > Referee Liaison Officer: Adam Kenton (ENG)
       >
       > I only saw the 2nd half of this and what a 45 minutes it was.
       I thought Danny Makkelie was superb, always in control, used VAR
       as it should be, played a super advantage when England broke out
       of midfield and generally contributed to an exciting half. (PS.
       Am I alone in thinking that he he looks just like Arnold
       Shwarzenegger as 'The Terminator'?!)
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       He's certainly fit and I'm sure many of us ladies, and maybe
       also some men, will most certainly classify him as hot but not
       sure he resembles Arni, who imho is not hot! Nice physique - not
       overly muscular, not an ounce of fat on him though - I reckon
       his body fat is probably as low as 10-12. Handsome and an
       absolutely gorgeous smile <--- very important feature!  He's not
       quite Filip Glova hot but I'd put him at #2 on my totty list!
       Let's hope he (and Filip come to think of it...) doesn't read
       RTR [emoji15]
       In terms of refereeing, he is a phenomenal referee. Easily top
       2/3 in the world. Amazes me that he puts in masterclass after
       masterclass and 9/10 makes it look so easy. His man management
       is superb, he leads matches, so so good, the only one who comes
       close to him in man management terms is István. Can't be easy
       when you are at the very top to continue to maintain above
       expected levels of performances match after match, that level of
       pressure must be immense and speaks volumes about his character.
       He's getting some stick elsewhere over the 2 OFR stating he
       should have spotted them in real time, well imo the first one
       the attacker looks for the contact so he can go down & I can
       understand why he played on, 2nd one the stamp to the foot would
       have been on his blindside, the player was obscuring his view
       and I don't believe he has developed X-ray vision yet, if he has
       he will be like the terminator! He wasn't quite at his peak best
       last night but when your not the best is still superb, it says
       it all really about him as a referee.
       #Post#: 53078--------------------------------------------------
       Re: UEFA Nations League 2022/23 
   DIR By: guest644
       Date: September 27, 2022, 10:23 am
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       --- Quote from: bmb link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Acme Thunderer link=topic=3754.msg53074#msg53074
       date=1664285860]
       > ENGLAND - GERMANY
       > Referee: Danny Makkelie (NED)
       > Assistant Referee 1: Hessel Steegstra (NED)
       > Assistant Referee 2: Jan de Vries (NED)
       > Fourth Official: Sander Van Der Eijk (NED)
       > Video Assistant Referee:
       > Assistant Video Assistant Referee:
       > UEFA Referee Observer: Christopher Lautier (MLT)
       > UEFA Delegate: Eduard Dervishaj Nelaj (ESP)
       > Referee Liaison Officer: Adam Kenton (ENG)
       >
       > I only saw the 2nd half of this and what a 45 minutes it was.
       I thought Danny Makkelie was superb, always in control, used VAR
       as it should be, played a super advantage when England broke out
       of midfield and generally contributed to an exciting half. (PS.
       Am I alone in thinking that he he looks just like Arnold
       Shwarzenegger as 'The Terminator'?!)
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       He's certainly fit and I'm sure many of us ladies, and maybe
       also some men, will most certainly classify him as hot but not
       sure he resembles Arni, who imho is not hot! Nice physique - not
       overly muscular, not an ounce of fat on him though - I reckon
       his body fat is probably as low as 10-12. Handsome and an
       absolutely gorgeous smile <--- very important feature!  He's not
       quite Filip Glova hot but I'd put him at #2 on my totty list!
       Let's hope he (and Filip come to think of it...) doesn't read
       RTR [emoji15]
       In terms of refereeing, he is a phenomenal referee. Easily top
       2/3 in the world. Amazes me that he puts in masterclass after
       masterclass and 9/10 makes it look so easy. His man management
       is superb, he leads matches, so so good, the only one who comes
       close to him in man management terms is István. Can't be easy
       when you are at the very top to continue to maintain above
       expected levels of performances match after match, that level of
       pressure must be immense and speaks volumes about his character.
       He's getting some stick elsewhere over the 2 OFR stating he
       should have spotted them in real time, well imo the first one
       the attacker looks for the contact so he can go down & I can
       understand why he played on, 2nd one the stamp to the foot would
       have been on his blindside, the player was obscuring his view
       and I don't believe he has developed X-ray vision yet, if he has
       he will be like the terminator! He wasn't quite at his peak best
       last night but when your not the best is still superb, it says
       it all really about him as a referee.
       [/quote]
       Imagine him whistling his matches in police uniform &#128539;
       Top refs are always respected, even when they make mistakes.
       That’s how we recognize the best.
       #Post#: 53079--------------------------------------------------
       Re: UEFA Nations League 2022/23 
   DIR By: bmb
       Date: September 27, 2022, 10:38 am
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       --- Quote from: kamikaze link ---
       >
       > Imagine him whistling his matches in police uniform &#128539;
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I think Edy would send us both to the naughty step permanently
       for that thought alone!
       #Post#: 53081--------------------------------------------------
       Re: UEFA Nations League 2022/23 
   DIR By: rustyref
       Date: September 27, 2022, 11:22 am
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       He is superb, but I suspect he will be kicking himself for
       missing the two penalties real time and needing VAR to rule him
       out.  The Maguire one in particular was very clear and I was
       amazed he waved it away, especially as he appeared to have a
       clear view.  That must have been the fastest VAR pitch side
       screen check in history, he barely glanced at it, so obvious was
       the foul.  He obviously hasn't watched any Man Utd games as if
       he had he would know what was coming after Maguire mis-controls,
       misplaces a pass and then tries to make amends &#128514;
       #Post#: 53087--------------------------------------------------
       Re: UEFA Nations League 2022/23 
   DIR By: guest644
       Date: September 28, 2022, 12:48 am
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       --- Quote from: rustyref link ---
       >
       > He is superb, but I suspect he will be kicking himself for
       missing the two penalties real time and needing VAR to rule him
       out.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I could read the dissapointment on Makkelie’s face. He is not
       standing a lot in front of that VAR screen. It’s okay to raise
       critics, but I was a bit shocked by some indiscriminate critics
       on a particular ref blog. Some people seem to enjoy it to burn
       down referees. In general, critics are always more harsh and
       straightforward when a top flight referee makes a mistake. Easy
       targets, for some reason… It stands out because they rarely make
       a mistake.
       Regarding the OFR’s, from a refereeing perspective we can talk
       about two missed PK’s. From a (man-)management perspective, I
       think it was good to award those PK’s after OFR. It’s easier to
       sell the 1st PK decision against England in a packed Wembley
       after rewatching the incident. And I noticed that the German
       defender - the one that conceded that 2nd Pk - was still moaning
       after the game, FFS!
       #Post#: 53088--------------------------------------------------
       Re: UEFA Nations League 2022/23 
   DIR By: Tweed
       Date: September 28, 2022, 2:04 am
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       I thought the German was very lucky to only get a yellow, it was
       a straight leg above the ankle, I appreciate the force was
       minimal and it was an accident which probably on balance
       justifies the yellow call but to debate it was a penalty was
       just utterly ridiculous.
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