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       #Post#: 48989--------------------------------------------------
       Adam Herczeg - Wrexham v Grimsby 
   DIR By: Observeref8
       Date: May 28, 2022, 7:22 am
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       Half Time 45 minutes in - Unfortunately a poor half for Adam,
       you cannot go into a Play Off Semi Final with a mindset of being
       low key, it doesn’t seem accepted by players and all it has lead
       to is numerous players swarming around him on 4 occasions, with
       no player receiving a card for this, he is just waving his arms
       at them, it needs a strong whistle to tell them to back off, or
       a card simple.
       Penalty to Wrexham very soft, probably was not, but some may of
       given it, but then consistency was lacking as 10 minutes later a
       Wrexham player was absolutely Poll axed by the goalkeeper,
       nothing given. Positioning has not been great first 45, has got
       in the way on a few occasions.
       Positive - All 4 yellows spot on.
       Adam needs to raise his game in the 2nd half, and lower the
       tolerance level.
       #Post#: 48995--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Adam Herczeg - Wrexham v Grimsby 
   DIR By: SuffolkRef
       Date: May 28, 2022, 10:16 am
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       Unfortunately I missed the match which ended up as a 5-4 win to
       Grimsby.
       From the reports I have seen in addition to the penalty Mr
       Herczeg missed a blatant handball for a Wrexham goal.  Although
       that didn’t save him from Phil Parkinson criticising him even
       though his side conceded five goals.  I wonder what today’s
       match does for his promotion prospects ?
       #Post#: 48997--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Adam Herczeg - Wrexham v Grimsby 
   DIR By: nemesis
       Date: May 28, 2022, 10:39 am
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       --- Quote from: SuffolkRef link ---
       >
       > Unfortunately I missed the match which ended up as a 5-4 win
       to Grimsby.
       >
       > From the reports I have seen in addition to the penalty Mr
       Herczeg missed a blatant handball for a Wrexham goal.  Although
       that didn’t save him from Phil Parkinson criticising him even
       though his side conceded five goals.  I wonder what today’s
       match does for his promotion prospects ?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Hardly blatant ..... it took the TV people about 10 minutes to
       find an angle that showed it clearly.
       I turned on at half-time and I would never have guessed he'd had
       a torrid first half, if indeed he did.
       Allowed plenty of physical contact and the 75 minutes I saw, I
       thought he was quite reasonable. Liked the improvised use of his
       spray can to keep the Wrexham defender an appropriate distance
       from the long throw.
       #Post#: 48998--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Adam Herczeg - Wrexham v Grimsby 
   DIR By: nemesis
       Date: May 28, 2022, 10:41 am
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       --- Quote from: SuffolkRef link ---
       >
       > Unfortunately I missed the match which ended up as a 5-4 win
       to Grimsby.
       >
       > From the reports I have seen in addition to the penalty Mr
       Herczeg missed a blatant handball for a Wrexham goal.  Although
       that didn’t save him from Phil Parkinson criticising him even
       though his side conceded five goals.  I wonder what today’s
       match does for his promotion prospects ?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Unlikely to be as bad as what it does for Wrexham's !
       #Post#: 49001--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Adam Herczeg - Wrexham v Grimsby 
   DIR By: guest308
       Date: May 28, 2022, 10:52 am
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       Well Simon Mather was absolutely abysmal in last year's final
       and was promoted on the back of that so it might suggest Adam
       will be just fine .
       #Post#: 49003--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Adam Herczeg - Wrexham v Grimsby 
   DIR By: SuffolkRef
       Date: May 28, 2022, 11:02 am
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       --- Quote from: nemesis link ---
       >
       > [quote author=SuffolkRef link=topic=3747.msg48995#msg48995
       date=1653750973]
       > Unfortunately I missed the match which ended up as a 5-4 win
       to Grimsby.
       >
       > From the reports I have seen in addition to the penalty Mr
       Herczeg missed a blatant handball for a Wrexham goal.  Although
       that didn’t save him from Phil Parkinson criticising him even
       though his side conceded five goals.  I wonder what today’s
       match does for his promotion prospects ?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Hardly blatant ..... it took the TV people about 10 minutes to
       find an angle that showed it clearly.
       I turned on at half-time and I would never have guessed he'd had
       a torrid first half, if indeed he did.
       Allowed plenty of physical contact and the 75 minutes I saw, I
       thought he was quite reasonable. Liked the improvised use of his
       spray can to keep the Wrexham defender an appropriate distance
       from the long throw.
       [/quote]
       Good to hear.  If TV took that long to show an incident such as
       that perhaps even VAR wouldn’t have recommended a review.
       #Post#: 49006--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Adam Herczeg - Wrexham v Grimsby 
   DIR By: Observeref8
       Date: May 28, 2022, 2:28 pm
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       Overall Adam will probably review the whole game, and re watch
       and prob feel disappointed.
       I feel the moments match control was lost was within in the
       first 15 where he allowed Grimsby to make 2 really late high
       Ariel tackles with elbows leading which all he did was warn the
       offending player, an early strong yellow would of shown
       strength, and maybe would of got the players onside.
       But overall Officiating in the first half was weak, KMI I felt
       in the 1st were incorrect, for me the Pen to Wrexham was not a
       pen, very very soft, but as given he needed to of given the 2nd,
       which was when the Wrexham player was poll axed by the GK, was a
       clear pen. Numerous players in the first half were surrounding
       him.
       2nd half not a lot to do, as football did the talking, loads of
       goals, and the players got on with it, to his Credit Adam
       allowed the 2nd half to flow, and didn’t need to reach for the
       card.
       Extra time was typical ET with both clubs attempting to win the
       game, Adam had to caution Phil Parkinson for dissent, And 2
       other players went on the card to - so overall 7 yellows.
       Just on this game alone I don’t think Adam is ready for the jump
       to FL but obviously I have not seen him over the course of the
       season, but his game plan of a low key approach really didn’t
       work out, and tbf the players didn’t seem to like this
       especially in the first half.
       #Post#: 49023--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Adam Herczeg - Wrexham v Grimsby 
   DIR By: Seagull
       Date: May 29, 2022, 4:34 am
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       --- Quote from: SuffolkRef link ---
       >
       > Unfortunately I missed the match which ended up as a 5-4 win
       to Grimsby.
       >
       > From the reports I have seen in addition to the penalty Mr
       Herczeg missed a blatant handball for a Wrexham goal.  Although
       that didn’t save him from Phil Parkinson criticising him even
       though his side conceded five goals.  I wonder what today’s
       match does for his promotion prospects ?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I understood from another RTR thread that the promotions had
       already been decided (not announced but the officials concerned
       have been told). If so, yesterday's match won't make any
       difference either way, I assume.
       #Post#: 49024--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Adam Herczeg - Wrexham v Grimsby 
   DIR By: Seagull
       Date: May 29, 2022, 4:43 am
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       --- Quote from: Charlieboy link ---
       >
       > Well Simon Mather was absolutely abysmal in last year's final
       and was promoted on the back of that so it might suggest Adam
       will be just fine .
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Prospects for promotion are assessed on their performance over a
       whole season, not just one game.
       #Post#: 49030--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Adam Herczeg - Wrexham v Grimsby 
   DIR By: RefObserver
       Date: May 29, 2022, 5:46 am
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       --- Quote from: Seagull link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Charlieboy link=topic=3747.msg49001#msg49001
       date=1653753122]
       > Well Simon Mather was absolutely abysmal in last year's final
       and was promoted on the back of that so it might suggest Adam
       will be just fine .
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Prospects for promotion are assessed on their performance over a
       whole season, not just one game.
       [/quote]
       Spot on - I can't see Liverpool selling any of their start
       players just because they had a poor game yesterday!
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