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Re: Fri 8th – Sun 10th APR 2022
By: Hertsref123 Date: April 5, 2022, 10:52 am
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[quote author=TVOS link=topic=3563.msg46272#msg46272
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[quote author=exile link=topic=3563.msg46271#msg46271
date=1649163530]
[quote author=TVOS link=topic=3563.msg46265#msg46265
date=1649159634]
[quote author=jacksamuel21 link=topic=3563.msg46260#msg46260
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[quote author=aaa link=topic=3563.msg46254#msg46254
date=1649156572]
Fri 8th Apr 2022
Newcastle United FC (First Team) v Wolverhampton Wanderers FC
(First Team)
Premier League
Referee: Bankes, Peter
Assistant Referee: Mainwaring, James
Assistant Referee: Smith, Wade
Fourth Official: Harrington, Tony
Video Assistant Referee: Gillett, Jarred
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Eaton, Derek
Sat 9th Apr 2022
Arsenal (First Team) v Brighton & Hove Albion FC (First Team)
Premier League
Referee: Coote, David
Assistant Referee: Hussin, Ian
Assistant Referee: Hopton, Nick
Fourth Official: Jones, Robert
Video Assistant Referee: Kavanagh, Chris
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Massey-Ellis, Sian
Aston Villa FC (First Team) v Tottenham Hotspur (First Team)
Premier League
Referee: Scott, Graham
Assistant Referee: Lennard, Harry
Assistant Referee: Scholes, Mark
Fourth Official: Pawson, Craig
Video Assistant Referee: Madley, Andrew
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Betts, Lee
Everton FC (First Team) v Manchester United FC (First Team)
Premier League
Referee: Moss, Jonathan
Assistant Referee: Perry, Marc
Assistant Referee: Wood, Timothy
Fourth Official: Atkinson, Martin
Video Assistant Referee: Gillett, Jarred
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Smart, Edward
Southampton FC (First Team) v Chelsea (First Team)
Premier League
Referee: Friend, Kevin
Assistant Referee: Holmes, Adrian
Assistant Referee: Beck, Simon
Fourth Official: Smith, Josh
Video Assistant Referee: Mason, Lee
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Wilkes, Matthew
Watford FC (First Team) v Leeds United AFC (First Team)
Premier League
Referee: Marriner, Andre
Assistant Referee: Long, Simon
Assistant Referee: Ledger, Scott
Fourth Official: Hooper, Simon
Video Assistant Referee: Dean, Michael
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Davies, Neil
Sun 10th Apr 2022
Brentford FC (First Team) v West Ham United (First Team)
Premier League
Referee: Atkinson, Martin
Assistant Referee: Betts, Lee
Assistant Referee: Hatzidakis, Constantine
Fourth Official: Hooper, Simon
Video Assistant Referee: Mason, Lee
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Cann, Darren
Leicester City FC (First Team) v Crystal Palace FC (First Team)
Premier League
Referee: Jones, Robert
Assistant Referee: Cook, Dan
Assistant Referee: Robathan, Daniel
Fourth Official: Moss, Jonathan
Video Assistant Referee: Bankes, Peter
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Hussin, Ian
Manchester City FC (First Team) v Liverpool FC (First Team)
Premier League
Referee: Taylor, Anthony
Assistant Referee: Beswick, Gary
Assistant Referee: Nunn, Adam
Fourth Official: Marriner, Andre
Video Assistant Referee: Tierney, Paul
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Wood, Timothy
Norwich City FC (First Team) v Burnley FC (First Team)
Premier League
Referee: Oliver, Michael
Assistant Referee: Burt, Stuart
Assistant Referee: Bennett, Simon
Fourth Official: Madley, Andrew
Video Assistant Referee: Brooks, John
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Hopton, Nick
[/quote]
Absolutely no surprises that the big games at the top and bottom
go to the two best referees. Although Oliver being a newcastle
fan makes it surprising that he is appointed to a big game at
the bottom
Although I don't think it will affect anything as Neither
support Manchester teams and I am not questioning the integrity
of the referees but having 2 referees from
Manchester in this game is asking for controversy
[/quote]
There aren't any referees from Manchester on it. One is from
Altrincham, one from Wigan.
[/quote]
Actually that's who they support, not where they're from.
[/quote]
Regardless, neither is from Manchester, as has been explained ad
infinitum on here whenever Taylor is appointed to United or City
[/quote]
Anthony Taylor lives within 10 mins of Old Trafford- should be
close enough to not referee Manchester teams. Chris Kavanagh is
even more questionable, it it any different to how English
refereees won't referee english teams in europe?
[/quote]
Well as neither support either of city or united, it shouldn't
be a big deal. Just because they live in manchester doesn't mean
they have allegiances to those clubs. you cannot compare it to a
referee not refereeing a team in europe from their home country.
#Post#: 46288--------------------------------------------------
Re: Fri 8th – Sun 10th APR 2022
By: Whistleblower Date: April 5, 2022, 11:04 am
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Didn't know about the abolition of the postcode. Thanks for
letting me know.
I don't see though why the same principle shouldn't be applied
to countries. A referee may reside in England but be a supporter
of the Italian National Team and not of England at all. Why
should they not referee England v Denmark for example. Perhaps
because of perceptions and how it looks ! Now there's a thought
which might be thought pertinent domestically.
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Re: Fri 8th – Sun 10th APR 2022
By: rustyref Date: April 5, 2022, 11:30 am
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How many times does the same thing need to be said, it comes up
every single time Taylor gets a Manchester team, certainly when
it is in a big game? Your postcode is now 100% irrelevant to
the appointing process, it is purely based on who you support.
And quite rightly as people don't just support their local clubs
as used to be more the case, they often support clubs nowhere
near where they currently live.
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Re: Fri 8th – Sun 10th APR 2022
By: jacksamuel21 Date: April 5, 2022, 12:13 pm
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[quote author=rustyref link=topic=3563.msg46289#msg46289
date=1649176234]
How many times does the same thing need to be said, it comes up
every single time Taylor gets a Manchester team, certainly when
it is in a big game? Your postcode is now 100% irrelevant to
the appointing process, it is purely based on who you support.
And quite rightly as people don't just support their local clubs
as used to be more the case, they often support clubs nowhere
near where they currently live.
[/quote]
I agree I have no interest in the most local team to where I
live now or where I was born
No doubt some people will look at and use the location of the
referees as an excuse if they make a perceived bad decision
Would be interesting to see if Jarred Gillett is ever appointed
to an english team in european games/ national team once he gets
his fifa badge(Should be next) considering he is Australian
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Re: Fri 8th – Sun 10th APR 2022
By: Leggy Date: April 5, 2022, 12:30 pm
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[quote author=jacksamuel21 link=topic=3563.msg46291#msg46291
date=1649178792]
[quote author=rustyref link=topic=3563.msg46289#msg46289
date=1649176234]
How many times does the same thing need to be said, it comes up
every single time Taylor gets a Manchester team, certainly when
it is in a big game? Your postcode is now 100% irrelevant to
the appointing process, it is purely based on who you support.
And quite rightly as people don't just support their local clubs
as used to be more the case, they often support clubs nowhere
near where they currently live.
[/quote]
I agree I have no interest in the most local team to where I
live now or where I was born
No doubt some people will look at and use the location of the
referees as an excuse if they make a perceived bad decision
Would be interesting to see if Jarred Gillett is ever appointed
to an english team in european games/ national team once he gets
his fifa badge(Should be next) considering he is Australian
[/quote]
He won't because he will be an English FA nominated referee and
he is employed, managed and remunerated by a company that has
the English FA as a significant shareholder.
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Re: Fri 8th – Sun 10th APR 2022
By: jacksamuel21 Date: April 5, 2022, 12:33 pm
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[quote author=Leggy link=topic=3563.msg46293#msg46293
date=1649179816]
[quote author=jacksamuel21 link=topic=3563.msg46291#msg46291
date=1649178792]
[quote author=rustyref link=topic=3563.msg46289#msg46289
date=1649176234]
How many times does the same thing need to be said, it comes up
every single time Taylor gets a Manchester team, certainly when
it is in a big game? Your postcode is now 100% irrelevant to
the appointing process, it is purely based on who you support.
And quite rightly as people don't just support their local clubs
as used to be more the case, they often support clubs nowhere
near where they currently live.
[/quote]
I agree I have no interest in the most local team to where I
live now or where I was born
No doubt some people will look at and use the location of the
referees as an excuse if they make a perceived bad decision
Would be interesting to see if Jarred Gillett is ever appointed
to an english team in european games/ national team once he gets
his fifa badge(Should be next) considering he is Australian
[/quote]
He won't because he will be an English FA nominated referee and
he is employed, managed and remunerated by a company that has
the English FA as a significant shareholder.
[/quote]
Thats the same then as Chris Kavanagh being part of the
Manchester FA is it not?
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Re: Fri 8th – Sun 10th APR 2022
By: Badger Date: April 5, 2022, 1:11 pm
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I know it’s not quite so high level but I live in Doddington
(PE150TW) and I was appointed to March Town (PE158HS) on the
Eastern Counties Premier. It’s 5 miles from my house to there.
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Re: Fri 8th – Sun 10th APR 2022
By: Claretman Date: April 5, 2022, 1:49 pm
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[quote author=rustyref link=topic=3563.msg46289#msg46289
date=1649176234]
How many times does the same thing need to be said, it comes up
every single time Taylor gets a Manchester team, certainly when
it is in a big game? Your postcode is now 100% irrelevant to
the appointing process, it is purely based on who you support.
And quite rightly as people don't just support their local clubs
as used to be more the case, they often support clubs nowhere
near where they currently live.
[/quote]
Have to agree on the local clubs thing, i support a team 130
miles from where i live and have never
Moved from my county. Some people move for their job and still
support the team whete they used to live, i think mr moss and mr
friend are examples of this.
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Re: Fri 8th – Sun 10th APR 2022
By: Claretman Date: April 5, 2022, 1:51 pm
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[quote author=ajb95 link=topic=3563.msg46285#msg46285
date=1649172403]
[quote author=Phil42 link=topic=3563.msg46270#msg46270
date=1649163255]
[quote author=TheThingFromLewes
link=topic=3563.msg46256#msg46256 date=1649156896]
Well no surprise the big hitters out for both games.
Good to see Graham Scott pick up a decent fixture too.
[/quote]
Not hating on Scott here, but why oh why are referees who, let's
be honest, don't have much of a future in SG1 (or at least
wouldn't if we had some competent management in charge),
continue to pick up decent matches, when you have the likes of
Gillett sitting in Stockley Park (yet again). It makes no sense
to me!
[/quote]
He’s hardly had any games never mind “top matches”. He’s only
had about 3 games on TV as well
[/quote]
Best wishes to mr scott, hope he has a good game. I guess with
the amount of games he has had
During this season it must de difficult to get into a rhythm.
Thought this game would have mike deam written on it, so
surprised to see scott get it
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Re: Fri 8th – Sun 10th APR 2022
By: rustyref Date: April 5, 2022, 1:53 pm
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[quote author=jacksamuel21 link=topic=3563.msg46294#msg46294
date=1649180028]
[quote author=Leggy link=topic=3563.msg46293#msg46293
date=1649179816]
[quote author=jacksamuel21 link=topic=3563.msg46291#msg46291
date=1649178792]
[quote author=rustyref link=topic=3563.msg46289#msg46289
date=1649176234]
How many times does the same thing need to be said, it comes up
every single time Taylor gets a Manchester team, certainly when
it is in a big game? Your postcode is now 100% irrelevant to
the appointing process, it is purely based on who you support.
And quite rightly as people don't just support their local clubs
as used to be more the case, they often support clubs nowhere
near where they currently live.
[/quote]
I agree I have no interest in the most local team to where I
live now or where I was born
No doubt some people will look at and use the location of the
referees as an excuse if they make a perceived bad decision
Would be interesting to see if Jarred Gillett is ever appointed
to an english team in european games/ national team once he gets
his fifa badge(Should be next) considering he is Australian
[/quote]
He won't because he will be an English FA nominated referee and
he is employed, managed and remunerated by a company that has
the English FA as a significant shareholder.
[/quote]
Thats the same then as Chris Kavanagh being part of the
Manchester FA is it not?
[/quote]
To reiterate, again, where you live has zero impact on what
teams you referee in England. I don't really understand why you
are finding this concept so difficult to understand when you
have been told by multiple people about it.
Of course it is different for FIFA appointments, as a referee is
listed as being from the national association that nominated
them. So you are hardly going to see "Jared Gillett (England)"
listed as a referee for England vs Spain or Liverpool vs Real
Madrid. Whereas for domestic games they don't even publish
where the officials are from anymore, and the vast majority of
supporters won't have a clue where a referee is from. Their
home town used to be listed in the programme, and even appeared
as a caption on MoTD, but that hasn't been done for years now.
In fact Gillett is probably the perfect argument against the old
postcode rule, I think I am right in saying when he first moved
to England he lived in Liverpool as was a PHD student at the
University there (and may still be), yet presumably has no
connection to either Liverpool based teams so why should he be
barred from refereeing them. It would have been similar for me,
I moved to London in my early 20s but grew up in and support a
Yorkshire based team. Under the old rules I would have been
banned from refereeing all London based teams (had I made it to
that level obviously), yet I could have refereed Leeds,
Bradford, Rotherham, Doncaster, Sheffield United, etc. The old
system was an absolute nonsense.
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