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       #Post#: 46308--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Who will get the Man City vs Liverpool game?
   DIR By: jacksamuel21
       Date: April 5, 2022, 2:36 pm
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       --- Quote from: RCG link ---
       >
       > Interesting you should mention that as over the last 2
       weekends the NH rugby leagues have had a number of cross border
       appointments.
       > 2 weeks ago it was a number of TMOs and this week saw some
       referees join them.
       > AND they were given decent games
       > Christophe Ridley took charge of Munster vs Leinster
       > Mathieu Raynal was on L Irish v Quins and Nika the Georgian
       did Bordeaux v La Rochelle in the Top 14 evening KO.
       >
       > Why cant football do the same and break some of this
       parochial/political barrier?
       >
       > Oh and none of the games went badly so no need to trot out
       cliches of "they dont understand our game"
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Be nice to have someone like Orsarto/Turpin or Makkelie or even
       Marciniak on this game
       I think the issue this highlights the issues with football and
       VAR in general the inconsistencies across the leagues
       #Post#: 46318--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Who will get the Man City vs Liverpool game?
   DIR By: Claretman
       Date: April 5, 2022, 4:26 pm
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       --- Quote from: jacksamuel21 link ---
       >
       > [quote author=RCG link=topic=3552.msg46306#msg46306
       date=1649186453]
       > Interesting you should mention that as over the last 2
       weekends the NH rugby leagues have had a number of cross border
       appointments.
       > 2 weeks ago it was a number of TMOs and this week saw some
       referees join them.
       > AND they were given decent games
       > Christophe Ridley took charge of Munster vs Leinster
       > Mathieu Raynal was on L Irish v Quins and Nika the Georgian
       did Bordeaux v La Rochelle in the Top 14 evening KO.
       >
       > Why cant football do the same and break some of this
       parochial/political barrier?
       >
       > Oh and none of the games went badly so no need to trot out
       cliches of "they dont understand our game"
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Be nice to have someone like Orsarto/Turpin or Makkelie or even
       Marciniak on this game
       I think the issue this highlights the issues with football and
       VAR in general the inconsistencies across the leagues
       [/quote]
       If you are going to invite officials from outside england to
       officiate in the premier league, then i feel they should be
       invited for the full season not just one game.
       English referees officiate differently in the premier league to
       those in europe, be it under the guidance of their bosses from
       pgmol.
       #Post#: 46328--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Who will get the Man City vs Liverpool game?
   DIR By: jacksamuel21
       Date: April 6, 2022, 1:15 am
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       --- Quote from: Claretman link ---
       >
       > [quote author=jacksamuel21 link=topic=3552.msg46308#msg46308
       date=1649187397]
       > [quote author=RCG link=topic=3552.msg46306#msg46306
       date=1649186453]
       > Interesting you should mention that as over the last 2
       weekends the NH rugby leagues have had a number of cross border
       appointments.
       > 2 weeks ago it was a number of TMOs and this week saw some
       referees join them.
       > AND they were given decent games
       > Christophe Ridley took charge of Munster vs Leinster
       > Mathieu Raynal was on L Irish v Quins and Nika the Georgian
       did Bordeaux v La Rochelle in the Top 14 evening KO.
       >
       > Why cant football do the same and break some of this
       parochial/political barrier?
       >
       > Oh and none of the games went badly so no need to trot out
       cliches of "they dont understand our game"
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Be nice to have someone like Orsarto/Turpin or Makkelie or even
       Marciniak on this game
       I think the issue this highlights the issues with football and
       VAR in general the inconsistencies across the leagues
       [/quote]
       If you are going to invite officials from outside england to
       officiate in the premier league, then i feel they should be
       invited for the full season not just one game.
       English referees officiate differently in the premier league to
       those in europe, be it under the guidance of their bosses from
       pgmol.
       [/quote]
       The referees should unite under the guidance of one
       organisation. Then the appointments spread across all the top
       leagues
       Imagine Orsato refereeing Burnley vs Norwich and Micheal Oliver
       Levante against Getafe
       #Post#: 46330--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Who will get the Man City vs Liverpool game?
   DIR By: bmb
       Date: April 6, 2022, 3:12 am
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       Well if we’re choosing our foreign refs then a rotation of
       István Kovács, Danny Makkelie, Enea Jorgji and Filip Glova for
       me, please and thank you!
       #Post#: 46340--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Who will get the Man City vs Liverpool game?
   DIR By: Ref Watcher
       Date: April 6, 2022, 5:06 am
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       --- Quote from: jacksamuel21 link ---
       >
       > The referees should unite under the guidance of one
       organisation. Then the appointments spread across all the top
       leagues
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       A nice idea in principle but until the players are required to
       travel thousands of miles every week to get to their league
       games I don't see why referees should.
       #Post#: 46346--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Who will get the Man City vs Liverpool game?
   DIR By: Ashington46
       Date: April 6, 2022, 6:44 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: Ref Watcher link ---
       >
       > [quote author=jacksamuel21 link=topic=3552.msg46328#msg46328
       date=1649225723]
       > The referees should unite under the guidance of one
       organisation. Then the appointments spread across all the top
       leagues
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       A nice idea in principle but until the players are required to
       travel thousands of miles every week to get to their league
       games I don't see why referees should.
       [/quote]
       I am sure that someone will latch on to this idea and use it to
       try to add weight to the formation of a European Super League
       which would then need to have officials from various countries.
       Heaven forbid!
       #Post#: 46360--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Who will get the Man City vs Liverpool game?
   DIR By: rustyref
       Date: April 6, 2022, 11:07 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: jacksamuel21 link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Claretman link=topic=3552.msg46318#msg46318
       date=1649193973]
       > [quote author=jacksamuel21 link=topic=3552.msg46308#msg46308
       date=1649187397]
       > [quote author=RCG link=topic=3552.msg46306#msg46306
       date=1649186453]
       > Interesting you should mention that as over the last 2
       weekends the NH rugby leagues have had a number of cross border
       appointments.
       > 2 weeks ago it was a number of TMOs and this week saw some
       referees join them.
       > AND they were given decent games
       > Christophe Ridley took charge of Munster vs Leinster
       > Mathieu Raynal was on L Irish v Quins and Nika the Georgian
       did Bordeaux v La Rochelle in the Top 14 evening KO.
       >
       > Why cant football do the same and break some of this
       parochial/political barrier?
       >
       > Oh and none of the games went badly so no need to trot out
       cliches of "they dont understand our game"
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Be nice to have someone like Orsarto/Turpin or Makkelie or even
       Marciniak on this game
       I think the issue this highlights the issues with football and
       VAR in general the inconsistencies across the leagues
       [/quote]
       If you are going to invite officials from outside england to
       officiate in the premier league, then i feel they should be
       invited for the full season not just one game.
       English referees officiate differently in the premier league to
       those in europe, be it under the guidance of their bosses from
       pgmol.
       [/quote]
       The referees should unite under the guidance of one
       organisation. Then the appointments spread across all the top
       leagues
       Imagine Orsato refereeing Burnley vs Norwich and Micheal Oliver
       Levante against Getafe
       [/quote]
       Don't agree, the officials would spend even more time on the
       road and living out of hotels than they do now.  Let's say an
       English referee did a Saturday game in Madrid and a Tuesday
       night game in Milan.  He'd be flying out on Friday, back home on
       Sunday, one night there before flying to Milan on Monday, or at
       best Tuesday morning, flying home Wednesday.  You can't expect
       referees to be at peak performance when they spend half of their
       week in airports and at hotels.
       Plus it wouldn't do much to add to ESG targets and goals.
       #Post#: 46362--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Who will get the Man City vs Liverpool game?
   DIR By: jacksamuel21
       Date: April 6, 2022, 1:02 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: rustyref link ---
       >
       > [quote author=jacksamuel21 link=topic=3552.msg46328#msg46328
       date=1649225723]
       > [quote author=Claretman link=topic=3552.msg46318#msg46318
       date=1649193973]
       > [quote author=jacksamuel21 link=topic=3552.msg46308#msg46308
       date=1649187397]
       > [quote author=RCG link=topic=3552.msg46306#msg46306
       date=1649186453]
       > Interesting you should mention that as over the last 2
       weekends the NH rugby leagues have had a number of cross border
       appointments.
       > 2 weeks ago it was a number of TMOs and this week saw some
       referees join them.
       > AND they were given decent games
       > Christophe Ridley took charge of Munster vs Leinster
       > Mathieu Raynal was on L Irish v Quins and Nika the Georgian
       did Bordeaux v La Rochelle in the Top 14 evening KO.
       >
       > Why cant football do the same and break some of this
       parochial/political barrier?
       >
       > Oh and none of the games went badly so no need to trot out
       cliches of "they dont understand our game"
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Be nice to have someone like Orsarto/Turpin or Makkelie or even
       Marciniak on this game
       I think the issue this highlights the issues with football and
       VAR in general the inconsistencies across the leagues
       [/quote]
       If you are going to invite officials from outside england to
       officiate in the premier league, then i feel they should be
       invited for the full season not just one game.
       English referees officiate differently in the premier league to
       those in europe, be it under the guidance of their bosses from
       pgmol.
       [/quote]
       The referees should unite under the guidance of one
       organisation. Then the appointments spread across all the top
       leagues
       Imagine Orsato refereeing Burnley vs Norwich and Micheal Oliver
       Levante against Getafe
       [/quote]
       Don't agree, the officials would spend even more time on the
       road and living out of hotels than they do now.  Let's say an
       English referee did a Saturday game in Madrid and a Tuesday
       night game in Milan.  He'd be flying out on Friday, back home on
       Sunday, one night there before flying to Milan on Monday, or at
       best Tuesday morning, flying home Wednesday.  You can't expect
       referees to be at peak performance when they spend half of their
       week in airports and at hotels.
       Plus it wouldn't do much to add to ESG targets and goals.
       [/quote]
       Its a good idea until you consider the travel involved
       #Post#: 46389--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Who will get the Man City vs Liverpool game?
   DIR By: jacksamuel21
       Date: April 7, 2022, 1:41 pm
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       Some interesting stats here, these are clearly the trusted
       referees
       #Post#: 46392--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Who will get the Man City vs Liverpool game?
   DIR By: Whistleblower
       Date: April 7, 2022, 3:42 pm
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       I find Tierney getting the same number of these 'big' matches as
       Dean and Marriner combined astonishing.  Is Tierney that good ?
       Clearly the appointing powers seem to think he is.  A view not
       so far shared by those in charge of the European stage it would
       seem
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