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       Re: Abigail Byrne
   DIR By: PhiltheRef
       Date: January 23, 2022, 5:30 pm
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       It was argued at the time that the deflection benefitted Man
       City.
       Don't think many folk would have complained TOO vociferously had
       play been stopped?
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       Re: Abigail Byrne
   DIR By: Affy_Moose
       Date: January 23, 2022, 5:33 pm
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       --- Quote from: rustyref link ---
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       > Unfortunate, but possession hasn't changed and it is very hard
       to argue that the touch off of the referee started a promising
       attack.  It actually made the ball go backwards.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       It’s very unfortunate, as the ball was probably going to be
       intercepted. However, as you say, there’s no way that could be
       judged to be a promising attack.
       If the first City player to touch the ball had instead been
       fouled, a caution for SPA wouldn’t be supported, and that is the
       equivalent measure.
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       Re: Abigail Byrne
   DIR By: Affy_Moose
       Date: January 23, 2022, 5:37 pm
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       --- Quote from: PhiltheRef link ---
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       > It was argued at the time that the deflection benefitted Man
       City.
       > Don't think many folk would have complained TOO vociferously
       had play been stopped?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       That’s the difficulty with applying a “Law 18” common sense to a
       Law that doesn’t stipulate involvement for mild ‘benefit’. With
       foresight, awarding a drop ball wouldn’t have raised any
       eyebrows, but neither would it have been strictly correct.
       I’m not sure there’s huge value in this clip for coaching,
       beyond positioning in the first instance and being ultra aware
       of how quickly a move can escalate.
       #Post#: 43301--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Abigail Byrne
   DIR By: RefObserver
       Date: January 24, 2022, 12:13 am
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       My personal opinion......
       Had the player who received the ball from the deflection been
       tripped by an opponent as she began her run down the line, I
       would have expected a caution for stopping a promising attack.
       As such, I believe that play should have been stopped and a drop
       ball awarded.
       This would also have been perceived as "safe refereeing" by most
       and caused much less (no) debate.
       #Post#: 43302--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Abigail Byrne
   DIR By: RCG
       Date: January 24, 2022, 1:26 am
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       And had the Arsenal defender stayed on her feet rather than
       diving in, the attack would have slowed then? A split second
       decision which the defender might have done differently with
       hindsight
       You can bet next time this happens to Ms Byrne the game will
       stop.
       #Post#: 43303--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Abigail Byrne
   DIR By: Whistleblower
       Date: January 24, 2022, 2:25 am
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       The safest option would have been to stop play for a drop ball.
       However I do not think the fact the ball hit the referee can be
       said to be a major influence in the goal being scored. The
       referee actually stopped the ball going forward on an attacking
       move and merely set up a different bout of possession by
       Manchester City in midfield. It was from that midfield
       possession, I suggest, that the new phase of play started which
       led to the goal.
       #Post#: 43352--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Abigail Byrne
   DIR By: Rosstheref
       Date: January 24, 2022, 12:59 pm
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       Safe refereeing. Stop the game!
       I'm sure she will be thinking this in hindsight (what a
       wonderful thing!)
       Isn't this the same ref that was involved in Man City
       controversy in the WSL at the start of the season?
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       Re: Abigail Byrne
   DIR By: SuffolkRef
       Date: January 24, 2022, 1:30 pm
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       --- Quote from: Rosstheref link ---
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       > Safe refereeing. Stop the game!
       >
       > I'm sure she will be thinking this in hindsight (what a
       wonderful thing!)
       >
       > Isn't this the same ref that was involved in Man City
       controversy in the WSL at the start of the season?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       There was a televised match earlier this season which Bryne took
       charge of where there was some controversy.  Was it a missed
       handball ?
       #Post#: 43363--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Abigail Byrne
   DIR By: PhiltheRef
       Date: January 24, 2022, 2:32 pm
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       Watched again this morning on 'Refwatch'
       The ball would possibly/probably  have been intercepted by an
       Arsenal player had it not significantly changed direction after
       hitting Ms Byrne
       #Post#: 43374--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Abigail Byrne
   DIR By: Ref Watcher
       Date: January 25, 2022, 4:42 am
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       --- Quote from: PhiltheRef link ---
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       > The ball would possibly/probably  have been intercepted by an
       Arsenal player had it not significantly changed direction after
       hitting Ms Byrne
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       But that's not relevant.  Possession didn't change and the ball
       didn't go directly into the goal so the only reason for a
       dropped ball, according to Law, would have been if Manchester
       City started a promising attack.  There is nothing in Law
       requiring a dropped ball if one team has simply been
       disadvantaged by the ball hitting the referee.  Perhaps there
       should be.
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