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       Re: Under the Radar
   DIR By: RCG
       Date: December 22, 2021, 9:02 am
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       --- Quote from: scottie link ---
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       > Mike Bailey always seemed calm and assured and should have
       gone further
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       Was always a question asked by us. Lovely man, very quietly
       spoken but well worth listening too. I owe him a great deal
       #Post#: 41635--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Under the Radar
   DIR By: scottie
       Date: December 22, 2021, 11:03 am
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       Could it be work related that several of the very respected
       names mentioned in the post never reached the heights that they
       had the potential to achieve?
       #Post#: 41636--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Under the Radar
   DIR By: Whistleblower
       Date: December 22, 2021, 11:11 am
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       --- Quote from: scottie link ---
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       > Could it be work related that several of the very respected
       names mentioned in the post never reached the heights that they
       had the potential to achieve?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Could be. Back in the 1980s/90s  most referees had primary
       jobs/careers and some employers I suppose would be more
       accommodating than others. I seem to remember Mike Bailey was a
       telecommunications engineer but it was a long time ago and
       memory might be playing tricks.
       Ian Hemley, aforementioned, was a secondary school teacher. I
       once asked him how he managed to accept evening appointments
       during school term. He replied that he had very supportive
       Departmental colleagues and Senior Management and so it was
       sometimes understood that Mr Hemley would be working off the
       school site on occasions.
       #Post#: 41642--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Under the Radar
   DIR By: Readingfan
       Date: December 22, 2021, 11:39 am
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       I remember Colin Webster doing a Reading game on Sky about a
       year or two before he retired and I thought he was excellent.
       I'm not fully certain on the names but a few other officials I
       remember seeing having some very good games, again shortly
       before they retired, were Clive Oliver, Graham Laws, Scott
       Matheison and Eddie Ilderton.
       I think it's always difficult lower down the leagues as you
       often only see a referee a limited number of times so have no
       idea what the general standard of the above over their careers
       was but certainly they impressed me at times I saw them.
       #Post#: 41650--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Under the Radar
   DIR By: Leggy
       Date: December 22, 2021, 12:54 pm
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       --- Quote from: Whistleblower link ---
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       > [quote author=scottie link=topic=3192.msg41635#msg41635
       date=1640192628]
       > Could it be work related that several of the very respected
       names mentioned in the post never reached the heights that they
       had the potential to achieve?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Could be. Back in the 1980s/90s  most referees had primary
       jobs/careers and some employers I suppose would be more
       accommodating than others. I seem to remember Mike Bailey was a
       telecommunications engineer but it was a long time ago and
       memory might be playing tricks.
       Ian Hemley, aforementioned, was a secondary school teacher. I
       once asked him how he managed to accept evening appointments
       during school term. He replied that he had very supportive
       Departmental colleagues and Senior Management and so it was
       sometimes understood that Mr Hemley would be working off the
       school site on occasions.
       [/quote]
       Correct - Mike Bailey worked for BT.  A very good referee and a
       very nice person.
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       Re: Under the Radar
   DIR By: JCFC
       Date: December 22, 2021, 1:14 pm
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       Going back even further, my nomination would be Frank Cowen.
       #Post#: 41656--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Under the Radar
   DIR By: Acme Thunderer
       Date: December 22, 2021, 3:08 pm
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       --- Quote from: Leggy link ---
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       > [quote author=Whistleblower link=topic=3192.msg41636#msg41636
       date=1640193061]
       > [quote author=scottie link=topic=3192.msg41635#msg41635
       date=1640192628]
       > Could it be work related that several of the very respected
       names mentioned in the post never reached the heights that they
       had the potential to achieve?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Could be. Back in the 1980s/90s  most referees had primary
       jobs/careers and some employers I suppose would be more
       accommodating than others. I seem to remember Mike Bailey was a
       telecommunications engineer but it was a long time ago and
       memory might be playing tricks.
       Ian Hemley, aforementioned, was a secondary school teacher. I
       once asked him how he managed to accept evening appointments
       during school term. He replied that he had very supportive
       Departmental colleagues and Senior Management and so it was
       sometimes understood that Mr Hemley would be working off the
       school site on occasions.
       [/quote]
       Correct - Mike Bailey worked for BT.  A very good referee and a
       very nice person.
       [/quote]
       It may be recalled that Mike's last game on the list was a Div 1
       relegation match, Stoke City v Man City in May 1998. Both teams
       could be relegated or the winners could stay up depending on
       results. The whole match was broadcast live on ITV (I believe),
       City won 5-2 and both teams ended up being relegated. I recall
       Mike had a good game, given the difficult circumstances.
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