DIR Return Create A Forum - Home
---------------------------------------------------------
RateTheRef
HTML https://ratetheref.createaforum.com
---------------------------------------------------------
*****************************************************
DIR Return to: General Discussion
*****************************************************
#Post#: 40857--------------------------------------------------
M DEAN - Everton v Arsenal
DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
Date: December 6, 2021, 2:30 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
Thoughts on Godfrey with his studs planted into the face of
Tomiyasu. VAR had a look and NFA.
Looks like SFP to me. Not sure why Attwell has said what he did
to Dean.
#Post#: 40858--------------------------------------------------
Re: M DEAN - Everton v Arsenal
DIR By: DublinRef
Date: December 6, 2021, 2:32 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
Nailed on RC for me. Atwell not having the best time of it as
VAR lately.
#Post#: 40860--------------------------------------------------
Re: M DEAN - Everton v Arsenal
DIR By: Irishref1985
Date: December 6, 2021, 2:32 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
Very surprised that Stuart Attwell hasn’t asked Mike Dean to
review that.
Godfrey in my opinion could have easily pulled out of that and
didn’t. Serious foul play for me and therefore a red card.
#Post#: 40861--------------------------------------------------
Re: M DEAN - Everton v Arsenal
DIR By: Comeonref
Date: December 6, 2021, 2:37 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
I’m often criticised for being negative on this forum but I can
hardly be blamed when Godfrey of Everton gets away with an
assault on an Arsenal player and Var suggests no further action.
Sorry a disgraceful decision we should be stamping out that sort
of thing from the game.
#Post#: 40862--------------------------------------------------
Re: M DEAN - Everton v Arsenal
DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
Date: December 6, 2021, 2:51 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
Looking back on it at full speed it looks even worse.
If that had happened in the non VAR EFL world and was reviewed
after the match by the disciplinary panel that would have easily
warranted a three match ban.
Astonishing decision.
#Post#: 40864--------------------------------------------------
Re: M DEAN - Everton v Arsenal
DIR By: Joecphillips
Date: December 6, 2021, 2:59 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
Definite red card
#Post#: 40878--------------------------------------------------
Re: M DEAN - Everton v Arsenal
DIR By: James365
Date: December 7, 2021, 5:58 am
---------------------------------------------------------
I think a red card. Only Godfrey knows whether it’s deliberate
or not. Not an easy one.
I’m not sure he planted his foot in his face as I didn’t see
that. Also, I don’t think it’s a disgraceful decision. I can’t
see how anyone can fully prove it was deliberate.
#Post#: 40881--------------------------------------------------
Re: M DEAN - Everton v Arsenal
DIR By: Jim_AFCB
Date: December 7, 2021, 6:09 am
---------------------------------------------------------
More blatant than Tyrone Mings Man U v Bournemouth in 2017.
Personally don't think Mings meant it.
Mings got a 6 game ban for that.
Staggered that Godfrey got off scot-free.
#Post#: 40885--------------------------------------------------
Re: M DEAN - Everton v Arsenal
DIR By: Ref Watcher
Date: December 7, 2021, 6:24 am
---------------------------------------------------------
--- Quote from: James365 link ---
>
> I think a red card. Only Godfrey knows whether it’s
deliberate or not. Not an easy one.
>
> I’m not sure he planted his foot in his face as I didn’t see
that. Also, I don’t think it’s a disgraceful decision. I can’t
see how anyone can fully prove it was deliberate.
>
--- End Quote ---
There is no need for anyone to prove it was deliberate. Did it
endanger the safety of an opponent or use excessive force or
brutality? If so it is serious foul play and a red card
offence.
#Post#: 40898--------------------------------------------------
Re: M DEAN - Everton v Arsenal
DIR By: Ashington46
Date: December 7, 2021, 7:25 am
---------------------------------------------------------
--- Quote from: Ref Watcher link ---
>
> [quote author=James365 link=topic=3146.msg40878#msg40878
date=1638878322]
> I think a red card. Only Godfrey knows whether it’s
deliberate or not. Not an easy one.
>
> I’m not sure he planted his foot in his face as I didn’t see
that. Also, I don’t think it’s a disgraceful decision. I can’t
see how anyone can fully prove it was deliberate.
>
--- End Quote ---
There is no need for anyone to prove it was deliberate. Did it
endanger the safety of an opponent or use excessive force or
brutality? If so it is serious foul play and a red card
offence.
[/quote]
As stated, only Godfrey knows whether or not it was a deliberate
act.
As far as the question of endangering an opponent goes, this was
hardly a normal situation as far as two players are concerned.
It was not a high foot? No. Did the Arsenal player put himself
in danger by stooping to head the ball? No. did the Arsenal
player fall to the ground of his own accord? No, it was a coming
together, as happens frequently in any game. Could Godfrey have
avoided landing on him? Only one person can answer that
question!
If you class this as endangering an opponent, then the goal
which Ramsey had disallowed against Leicester must fall into
this category because it was intentional and the keeper had
every right to be in the position he was, therefore, Ramsey
could/should have received a red card.
It does make me wonder just where the game is going because
every incident that comes up for discussion pushes it nearer to
becoming a non-contact game.
Only Godfrey knows, everything else is just opinion and Mike
Dean and VAR could not say 100% that there was any intent at
all.
*****************************************************
Page 1 of 2
DIR Next Page