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       Re: C KAVANAGH - Preston v Fulham
   DIR By: bmb
       Date: November 27, 2021, 1:01 pm
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       --- Quote from: takethejag link ---
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       > The Preston goal should've been disallowed for handball (twice
       possibly) and maybe offside as well, but you cannot criticise
       the refereeing team for this one, much as it rankles as a Fulham
       fan. I think Rodak should've been stronger/could've done better
       and you cannot disallow a goal on the say so of the defending
       team if you haven't seen the incident. This is where VAR
       would've assisted them (and Fulham) and personally I feel its
       introduction has been of benefit to the game overall.
       >
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       Agree (apart from I'm in 2 minds about VAR in general). Crowded
       box, several bodies obscuring view and it was on his blindside
       anyway. He doesn't have X-Ray vision, as far as I know anyway so
       he had zero chance with it.  His position was as expected so it
       wasn't a case of him being in the wrong place and missing it.
       AR had no chance either, the post would have been obscuring his
       view along with all the players. Plus it was upper arm/shoulder
       right on the borderline of it being hand ball or not. One of
       those rare ones where they could have changed nothing to get it
       right - themselves I mean, VAR would have caught it.
       #Post#: 40329--------------------------------------------------
       Re: C KAVANAGH - Preston v Fulham
   DIR By: bmb
       Date: November 27, 2021, 1:02 pm
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       --- Quote from: TheThingFromLewes link ---
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       > Plus, after dropping Mitrovic for most of last season,
       Mitrovic will be a beast on Friday aiming to settle a few scores
       I think.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Mitrovic is special.  I love watching him play for Szerbia.
       #Post#: 40330--------------------------------------------------
       Re: C KAVANAGH - Preston v Fulham
   DIR By: Cottager
       Date: November 27, 2021, 1:40 pm
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       As a Fulham fan hope Parker will be treated with respect as it
       was in the mutual interest of both parties to move on.Am
       grateful for what he did but we move on.
       Re ref for forthcoming match think Marriner would be ideal
       choice although feel most SG2 refs have been much better this
       season particularly Smith and Robinson.
       #Post#: 40332--------------------------------------------------
       Re: C KAVANAGH - Preston v Fulham
   DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
       Date: November 27, 2021, 2:01 pm
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       --- Quote from: Cottager link ---
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       > As a Fulham fan hope Parker will be treated with respect as it
       was in the mutual interest of both parties to move on.Am
       grateful for what he did but we move on.
       > Re ref for forthcoming match think Marriner would be ideal
       choice although feel most SG2 refs have been much better this
       season particularly Smith and Robinson.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Another Fulham fan! Welcome on board!
       #Post#: 40335--------------------------------------------------
       Re: C KAVANAGH - Preston v Fulham
   DIR By: Readingfan
       Date: November 27, 2021, 3:02 pm
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       Do we know of any discussions regarding possibly introducing VAR
       into Championship? I suppose it will probably happen at some
       point but it doesn't seem it will be imminent. Presumably lots
       of logistical challenges regarding financing it and
       finding/training enough officials.
       #Post#: 40336--------------------------------------------------
       Re: C KAVANAGH - Preston v Fulham
   DIR By: rustyref
       Date: November 27, 2021, 3:18 pm
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       Not sure it will happen as there are many logistical challenges.
       They would need a lot more referees at that level, but also the
       infrastructure would be a challenge.  I'm pretty sure that
       grounds with VAR need leased network lines put in back to
       Stockley Park.  Then you have where are the VARs and AVARs
       actually going to go?  I believe that there is space at VAR HQ
       for 6 consecutive games, and that is fine at present as there
       are never more than that number of games on at the same time.
       Add in the Championship and you are looking at an extra 10 or 11
       Saturday 3pm games, so it would need the facilities effectively
       doubling.
       #Post#: 40338--------------------------------------------------
       Re: C KAVANAGH - Preston v Fulham
   DIR By: bmb
       Date: November 27, 2021, 3:34 pm
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       In terms of infrastructure at clubs, those who have been
       relegated still have the basic infrastructure in place. I recall
       it being used at AFCB in probably a cup game, after they had
       been relegated. Over the couple of years or so since
       introduction that might apply to 5/6 clubs tops, leaving at
       least 14 who would need to add it - that is a huge expense for
       the respective clubs that don't yet have it & one many of them
       would struggle to fund.
       Agree entirely on the structure at Stockiey Park. I wonder if
       they would consider buying the mobile units (like we use in
       Hungary) as an alternative? Not sure how much they cost but I'm
       sure it would be cheaper than building an extension to the
       current set up. They'd probably need 5 and stagger games over 2
       days.
       #Post#: 40343--------------------------------------------------
       Re: C KAVANAGH - Preston v Fulham
   DIR By: Readingfan
       Date: November 28, 2021, 1:46 am
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       I think there are 8 teams currently in the Championship who have
       been in the Premier League since VAR was first introduced in FA
       Cup in 2017/18. You'd probably expect that to increase over the
       next 2-3 years. Given how widespread VAR is in club football
       across the world, you'd think there should be a way to make it
       work financially, even if done in a different way such as from
       the ground instead of Stockley Park (incidentally, Stockley Park
       managed to do 10 simultaneous games on final day of PL season,
       presumably with some form of social distancing.)
       I'd guess they'd need to use non-active officials as VARs if it
       happened to help increase pool of officials.
       #Post#: 40346--------------------------------------------------
       Re: C KAVANAGH - Preston v Fulham
   DIR By: RCG
       Date: November 28, 2021, 4:20 am
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       On the "tackle" he does miss with the outstretched leg so yellow
       is "supportable". To me its red as its more by luck than
       judgement that he doesnt land 6 studs into his opponents ankle.
       The goal is very unfortunate but should have been disallowed.
       Elbow into keeper, off at least one arm and potentially offside
       too.
       #Post#: 40347--------------------------------------------------
       Re: C KAVANAGH - Preston v Fulham
   DIR By: takethejag
       Date: November 28, 2021, 4:27 am
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       --- Quote from: TheThingFromLewes link ---
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       > [quote author=Cottager link=topic=3095.msg40330#msg40330
       date=1638042045]
       > As a Fulham fan hope Parker will be treated with respect as it
       was in the mutual interest of both parties to move on.Am
       grateful for what he did but we move on.
       > Re ref for forthcoming match think Marriner would be ideal
       choice although feel most SG2 refs have been much better this
       season particularly Smith and Robinson.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Another Fulham fan! Welcome on board!
       [/quote]
       I hope it isn't Marriner (sorry Gayle) as I've never felt we've
       ever got the rub of the green when he's reffed us.  It's about
       time we had Michael Oliver, if only because we didn't have him
       at all last season in the EPL, or otherwise from the the SG1,
       Jarred Gillett would be great again
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