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       Re: Rade Obrenovic - San Marino v England
   DIR By: Mikael W
       Date: November 16, 2021, 8:20 am
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       The SYC, both penalties for handling and the disallowed goal
       were correct (interventions) IMO. The caution at the first
       penalty was unnecessary though, and booking Abraham was a
       complete neglection of common-sense.
       (DISCLAIMER - I didn't watch this game in full :D). By the way -
       Obrenovič is a very good referee. I watched him handle a
       title-deciding match in Cyprus (where referees find bombs under
       their mothers' cars and are regularly attacked and threatened)
       and he was superb, in addition to a great performance in France
       vs. England at the U17 EURO in 2019. He is one of the biggest
       talents in European refereeing, in my estimation.
       I don't think San Marino vs. England is the best material to
       determine if a referee is talented or not, to be fair (and I'm
       sure everyone here agrees!).
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       Re: Rade Obrenovic - San Marino v England
   DIR By: rustyref
       Date: November 16, 2021, 4:12 pm
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       I thought the referee was actually good in a game that wasn't at
       all difficult.  His body language was good, and his
       communication with players was impressive.
       He was absolutely killed by VAR.  For the first penalty, how on
       earth was that a clear and obvious error?  It took multiple
       replays to prove that the ball even touched the defender's hand,
       had it not touched the hand it was going into row Z, it was just
       a ridiculous VAR intervention.  The referee was sent to look at
       the monitor, but realistically they are risking their FIFA
       status if they go against a VAR recommendation.  Likewise the
       caution isn't the referee's fault, UEFA say that any handling
       offence in the penalty area must be a caution.  That is a
       nonsense, as in this occasion there was no denying of a
       promising attack as the ball was heading to the stand, and
       indeed the handling turned a goal kick into a penalty so it did
       totally the opposite.
       The second penalty was way more clear, his arms were out and
       that is always going to be given.  Likewise the disallowed
       England goal, a bit soft but Abraham did foul the defender, and
       the height of the contact probably did pique VAR's interest.
       #Post#: 39899--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Rade Obrenovic - San Marino v England
   DIR By: ACTref
       Date: November 16, 2021, 6:50 pm
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       --- Quote from: UmpireIan49 link ---
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       > As an aside, Mr. Obrenovic looks like a hybrid of Jeff Winter
       and Jarred Gillett.....both of those gentlemen would find this
       game a doddle to officiate too.
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       --- End Quote ---
       While I can definitely see the resemblance, I can't help but see
       Mr. Obrenovic as a hybrid of Jeff and Jarred's former A-League
       collegue; 2014 World Cup referee and local boy (for me at
       least), the now retired Ben Williams!
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