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       #Post#: 2456--------------------------------------------------
       England v New Zealand Rugby Union International
       By: reflector Date: November 12, 2018, 1:27 pm
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       Along with a few others, I have previously commented that the
       football authorities could well draw on the experience of other
       sports, especially rugby union, to help overcome the teething
       problems as well as the whole principle of VAR to assist
       referees.
       Seeing the end of Saturday's international when England were
       denied what would have been a winning try in the closing seconds
       following the intervention of the TMO, I am not quite so sure
       now.  The disallowed try was disallowed for offside after
       initially being awarded by the on field French referee Jerome
       Garces.  In The Times, former international referee Rob Debney
       says that it was both a wrong decision and a breach of protocol.
       My knowledge of the technicalities of the offside law is so
       limited, I can't comment on whether or not it was offside but it
       was generally acknowledged to be a very close call.  Debney
       makes a strong case that the scorer was not offside but I won't
       attempt to summarise his argument which is very technical. The
       TMO, a South African I think from the accent, clearly told the
       referee after several replays that he must reverse his decision
       to award the try although, as Debney points out, the decision to
       award a try, under the regulations, must be made by the referee
       and not by the TMO.  He also says that the TMO relied on replays
       from only one camera which was at an angle creating a false
       perspective whereas the referee had a perfect view of the
       incident.
       I guess, even with video evidence, mistakes may still be made
       but, whatever the technical evidence available, the human
       element will still always have an impact.
       #Post#: 2478--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England v New Zealand Rugby Union International
       By: RCG Date: November 13, 2018, 9:56 am
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       The main issue was that none of the onfield officials queried it
       so whether the TMO had the authority to intervene on a question
       of offside is debatable in itself. Had Garces asked "Try yes or
       no" then any benefit of doubt falls witj the defending team so
       you could argue Itoje was a foot offside. Had he asked "Any
       reason I cant award the try" then the evidence must be clear and
       obvious. The ruck from which the ball emerges moves forward as
       the scrum half goes to pick the ball up and Itoje does not
       adjust his position, therefore offside.
       Possibly correct decision got at via an incorrect process.
       Garces had issues with comms too so in the end had no option but
       to accept the TMO's opinion.
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