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       #Post#: 36601--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Missing Officials
   DIR By: TVOS
       Date: August 23, 2021, 4:58 pm
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       --- Quote from: ajb95 link ---
       >
       > How did the likes of kettle et al pass this then. I can’t
       think of anyone more “fatter” than Kettle apart from Moss?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       He looks a bit more svelte this season!
       I saw Jon Moss in his record shop a couple of weeks ago. He's
       certainly not 'fat'.
       Brett Huxtable has a Pizza Trophy game next week, all the way up
       in Burton, bizarrely.
       #Post#: 36604--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Missing Officials
   DIR By: Leggy
       Date: August 24, 2021, 2:42 am
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       --- Quote from: TVOS link ---
       >
       > [quote author=ajb95 link=topic=2786.msg36600#msg36600
       date=1629754580]
       > How did the likes of kettle et al pass this then. I can’t
       think of anyone more “fatter” than Kettle apart from Moss?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       He looks a bit more svelte this season!
       I saw Jon Moss in his record shop a couple of weeks ago. He's
       certainly not 'fat'.
       Brett Huxtable has a Pizza Trophy game next week, all the way up
       in Burton, bizarrely.
       [/quote]
       Surely having a cup competition sponsored by a Pizza firm is not
       going to help reduce the levels of body fat in match officials
       :)
       #Post#: 36605--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Missing Officials
   DIR By: Bakis
       Date: August 24, 2021, 2:45 am
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       Same lack of coherent thinking as evident in gambling
       sponsorship.
       #Post#: 36681--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Missing Officials
   DIR By: Affy_Moose
       Date: August 27, 2021, 2:54 am
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       --- Quote from: justalino link ---
       >
       > There are a lot more officials on the 'missing list' than
       those listed.
       >
       > The PGMOL are not currently offering EFL appointments to any
       official who measured in excess of the stated body fat limit
       (different depending on your role and level) regardless of
       whether or not they passed the fitness test.
       >
       > This may or may not be responsible for some of the absences
       you mention.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Is there any record of what the parameters are? Body fat % shows
       remarkably different physical results on different frames and
       natural ‘normal’ levels range wildly across different people, so
       it’s always struck me as a fairly poor indicator of fitness.
       #Post#: 36684--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Missing Officials
   DIR By: justalino
       Date: August 27, 2021, 3:10 am
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       I would argue it's no indicator of fitness whatsoever, when you
       can pass the fitness test (and therefore by definition be deemed
       fit enough to do the games) but then not be offered games
       because of how you look.
       I might even suggest it's illegal.....
       #Post#: 36688--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Missing Officials
   DIR By: nemesis
       Date: August 27, 2021, 6:42 am
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       --- Quote from: Affy_Moose link ---
       >
       > [quote author=justalino link=topic=2786.msg36596#msg36596
       date=1629750197]
       > There are a lot more officials on the 'missing list' than
       those listed.
       >
       > The PGMOL are not currently offering EFL appointments to any
       official who measured in excess of the stated body fat limit
       (different depending on your role and level) regardless of
       whether or not they passed the fitness test.
       >
       > This may or may not be responsible for some of the absences
       you mention.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Is there any record of what the parameters are? Body fat % shows
       remarkably different physical results on different frames and
       natural ‘normal’ levels range wildly across different people, so
       it’s always struck me as a fairly poor indicator of fitness.
       [/quote]
       ......... and an even worse one of fitness to referee.
       #Post#: 36702--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Missing Officials
   DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
       Date: August 27, 2021, 1:27 pm
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       --- Quote from: TVOS link ---
       >
       > [quote author=ajb95 link=topic=2786.msg36600#msg36600
       date=1629754580]
       > How did the likes of kettle et al pass this then. I can’t
       think of anyone more “fatter” than Kettle apart from Moss?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       He looks a bit more svelte this season!
       I saw Jon Moss in his record shop a couple of weeks ago. He's
       certainly not 'fat'.
       Brett Huxtable has a Pizza Trophy game next week, all the way up
       in Burton, bizarrely.
       [/quote]
       Hmmmm.. calling Kettle elegant seems a bit far fetched!
       😂😂
       #Post#: 36704--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Missing Officials
   DIR By: Whistleblower
       Date: August 27, 2021, 2:26 pm
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       Jon Moss certainly is not fat; that is quite correct. He appears
       to be rather barrel chested which means that he will never
       present as pencil thin but that is due to bone structure not fat
       deposits.
       M'learned friend is absolutely right to point out that fitness
       to referee is not determined by body fat ratio. Of course the
       pace of the game was slower in years gone by but a very good
       referee from yesteryear was Sheffield's Michael Lowe and he
       certainly carried a fair bit of timber. With them both coming
       from Sheffield, I used to maintain that Lowe was a far better
       referee than the equally full-figured Hackett. Sadly for Lowe my
       opinion was not shared by the powers that be who seemed to
       invest a huge amount in Hackett who, in my opinion, was never
       more than an average referee.
       #Post#: 36705--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Missing Officials
   DIR By: RCG
       Date: August 27, 2021, 2:46 pm
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       I think had that been rigorously enforced then the likes of
       Steve Dunn, Paul Durkin etc would have been fixtureless, yet
       they passed fitness tests both nationally and internationally,
       both capable of reading games and being there or there abouts
       when needed.
       Quite a hard thing to shift quickly, are we not at risk of
       causing referees to have eating disorders or worse?
       #Post#: 36709--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Missing Officials
   DIR By: Hendo
       Date: August 27, 2021, 4:30 pm
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       --- Quote from: RCG link ---
       >
       > I think had that been rigorously enforced then the likes of
       Steve Dunn, Paul Durkin etc would have been fixtureless, yet
       they passed fitness tests both nationally and internationally,
       both capable of reading games and being there or there abouts
       when needed.
       > Quite a hard thing to shift quickly, are we not at risk of
       causing referees to have eating disorders or worse?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       …..not forgetting Mr Blobby himself, Phil Dowd
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