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Re: Sat 21st – Mon 23rd AUG 2021
DIR By: referee12
Date: August 20, 2021, 7:18 am
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What is the point of promoting these new refs if it’s going to
be the usual ones week in week out?
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Re: Sat 21st – Mon 23rd AUG 2021
DIR By: TVOS
Date: August 20, 2021, 2:34 pm
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> What is the point of promoting these new refs if it’s going to
be the usual ones week in week out?
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Well one of the reasons, as Mike Dean said on his Tubes video,
is that there are likely to be several retirements in the next
few years, so this seems to be (unusually) a bit of forward
planning!
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Re: Sat 21st – Mon 23rd AUG 2021
DIR By: Fengunner
Date: August 22, 2021, 8:49 am
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Arsenal have Chris Kavanagh on VAR for the 2nd game in a row.
After last week's showing (in front of Mike Riley) as well. Even
Klopp mentioned it. PGMOL just ruining the game.
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Re: Sat 21st – Mon 23rd AUG 2021
DIR By: Mackem ref
Date: August 22, 2021, 10:28 am
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--- Quote from: Fengunner link ---
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> Arsenal have Chris Kavanagh on VAR for the 2nd game in a row.
After last week's showing (in front of Mike Riley) as well. Even
Klopp mentioned it. PGMOL just ruining the game.
>
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Out of interest, how does Arsenal having Kavanagh 2 games in a
row on VAR link to the opinion of Jurgen Klopp???
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Re: Sat 21st – Mon 23rd AUG 2021
DIR By: ajb95
Date: August 22, 2021, 11:43 am
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I like the fact that little bits of contact are being let go,
but that doesn’t mean that clear fouls should go unpunished. A
clear foul on fernandes in the build up to the Southampton goal
and few other clear fouls in the games not being given
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Re: Sat 21st – Mon 23rd AUG 2021
DIR By: Fengunner
Date: August 22, 2021, 11:51 am
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Two seperate sets of rules being applied at The Emirates. So
blindingly obvious to anybody - even Klopp!
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Re: Sat 21st – Mon 23rd AUG 2021
DIR By: rustyref
Date: August 22, 2021, 12:26 pm
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--- Quote from: ajb95 link ---
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> I like the fact that little bits of contact are being let go,
but that doesn’t mean that clear fouls should go unpunished. A
clear foul on fernandes in the build up to the Southampton goal
and few other clear fouls in the games not being given
>
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That wasn't a foul, Fernandes felt the slightest bit of contact
and flung himself over. They aren't going to give that from now
on, and that can only be good for the game in my opinion.
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Re: Sat 21st – Mon 23rd AUG 2021
DIR By: ajb95
Date: August 22, 2021, 3:39 pm
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--- Quote from: rustyref link ---
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> [quote author=ajb95 link=topic=2765.msg36520#msg36520
date=1629650630]
> I like the fact that little bits of contact are being let go,
but that doesn’t mean that clear fouls should go unpunished. A
clear foul on fernandes in the build up to the Southampton goal
and few other clear fouls in the games not being given
>
--- End Quote ---
That wasn't a foul, Fernandes felt the slightest bit of contact
and flung himself over. They aren't going to give that from now
on, and that can only be good for the game in my opinion.
[/quote]
Watch it against he went straight through the back of him
nowhere near the ball. If I did that on a Saturday afternoon in
front of an observer I’d have my throat cut
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Re: Sat 21st – Mon 23rd AUG 2021
DIR By: Ref Fan
Date: August 22, 2021, 4:20 pm
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--- Quote from: rustyref link ---
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> [quote author=ajb95 link=topic=2765.msg36520#msg36520
date=1629650630]
> I like the fact that little bits of contact are being let go,
but that doesn’t mean that clear fouls should go unpunished. A
clear foul on fernandes in the build up to the Southampton goal
and few other clear fouls in the games not being given
>
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That wasn't a foul, Fernandes felt the slightest bit of contact
and flung himself over. They aren't going to give that from now
on, and that can only be good for the game in my opinion.
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Firstly, as a United fan, I find Fernandes's antics at times by
feigning or exaggerating fouls on him very frustrating and his
continual moaning at referees annoying. I'd no issue with the
YC today.
However, I can't agree that in this instance there was "the
slightest bit of contact". Some will say you reap what you sow
and Fernandes deserves no sympathy. Be that as it may, while I
agree with the new policy being adopted regarding slight contact
or soft fouls, it is the surely the duty of referees to
correctly recognise and penalise 'proper' fouls.
As it happens, I didn't think this was one of Pawson's better
days. His foul detection I felt was random at times; another
example being the challenge on Greenwood in the first half when
Pawson eventually stopped play (much to the ire of the
Southampton defender). He didn't give a foul yet the replay
showed that an elbow had caught Greenwood in the neck. Not
saying it was malicious but to me that was contact that
warranted a foul.
On a more general point, after a good first round of PL fixtures
for referees and VARs, I was less convinced this weekend about
those incidents when VAR did intervene and some when they
didn't.
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Re: Sat 21st – Mon 23rd AUG 2021
DIR By: referee12
Date: August 23, 2021, 2:00 pm
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var was right on all accounts on Saturday according to the match
of the day pundits
Sunday was okay
all incidents were reviewed by Dermot Gallagher today and most
he agreed with
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