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#Post#: 32973--------------------------------------------------
Daft question I know but..............
DIR By: robbieg
Date: June 15, 2021, 3:35 pm
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Coming from a mere fan please can someone explain this to me
regarding two disallowed goals this evening in the Euro
games............
On both occasions a goal has been " scored" then disallowed due
to offside.
Watching both games and replays I have no problem with the
goals being disallowed but what I cannot get is that on both
occasions play has been allowed to continue until the ball hits
the net then the AR raises his flag.
I always thought as soon as the offending player made the first
touch of the ball then the flag goes up but it seems strange
[AND PLEASE FORGIVE MY IGNORANCE] that play has continued long
after the offender has taken control of the ball,the goal "
scored" and then the flag raised.
I am sure there is a perfectly reasonable explanation and in no
way am I being critical [ I think from what I have seen the
refereeing has been superb so far] but it is bugging me so I
would be ever so grateful if someone can educate me.
Thanks in advance.
#Post#: 32975--------------------------------------------------
Re: Daft question I know but..............
DIR By: WaitAndSee
Date: June 15, 2021, 3:40 pm
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Not a daft question at all! :)
Assistant Referees are now instructed to allow play to continue
until the ball enters the goal before raising the flag, which
allows VAR to check the decision before agreeing/disagreeing
with the outcome. If the Assistant Referee were to signal before
the ball entered the goal, then it would take the VAR check out
of the equation, as play would then be stopped and the initial
free kick for offside would be awarded.
It's just really there to prevent the potential for an onside
goal being disallowed incorrectly.
Hope that makes sense!
#Post#: 32979--------------------------------------------------
Re: Daft question I know but..............
DIR By: rustyref
Date: June 15, 2021, 3:59 pm
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Have you not watched the Premier League for the past two
seasons? Assistants are told to keep their flag down until the
attack breaks down, that way if the offside is wrong it doesn't
incorrectly deny a goal.
#Post#: 32989--------------------------------------------------
Re: Daft question I know but..............
DIR By: scottie
Date: June 15, 2021, 4:29 pm
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I have another daft question! With the officials being ‘mics up’
How come thd Assistants are not deafened when the referee blows
their whistle?
#Post#: 32990--------------------------------------------------
Re: Daft question I know but..............
DIR By: robbieg
Date: June 15, 2021, 4:38 pm
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--- Quote from: rustyref link ---
>
> Have you not watched the Premier League for the past two
seasons? Assistants are told to keep their flag down until the
attack breaks down, that way if the offside is wrong it doesn't
incorrectly deny a goal.
>
--- End Quote ---
Being given a lifetime punishment of supporting Sunderland AFC I
am afraid as a mere underling the Premier League at present
holds little interest to me at all and of the odd occasions I
have watched MOTD or whatever I cannot remember a goal being
disallowed for the reasons I have queried.I have to live with
the fact that good and honest Gentlemen and Ladies who have
probably been at their work anything up to twenty four hours
earlier before travelling to wherever we are playing make on the
spot decisions based on what they have [ or think they have]
seen.
Sometimes they are right and sometimes they make a total rick
of things so sadly from the standard I watch and given the same
circumstances either the AR would raise his flag as soon as the
player takes control of the ball or it just gets let go and
rightly or wrongly the goal is allowed. Hence why I titled the
thread the way that I did.
Football wasn't formed in 1992 and it goes a lot deeper than
the Premier League but thank you for your response.
#Post#: 32992--------------------------------------------------
Re: Daft question I know but..............
DIR By: Ashington46
Date: June 15, 2021, 4:50 pm
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--- Quote from: robbieg link ---
>
> [quote author=rustyref link=topic=2574.msg32979#msg32979
date=1623790786]
> Have you not watched the Premier League for the past two
seasons? Assistants are told to keep their flag down until the
attack breaks down, that way if the offside is wrong it doesn't
incorrectly deny a goal.
>
--- End Quote ---
Being given a lifetime punishment of supporting Sunderland AFC I
am afraid as a mere underling the Premier League at present
holds little interest to me at all and of the odd occasions I
have watched MOTD or whatever I cannot remember a goal being
disallowed for the reasons I have queried.I have to live with
the fact that good and honest Gentlemen and Ladies who have
probably been at their work anything up to twenty four hours
earlier before travelling to wherever we are playing make on the
spot decisions based on what they have [ or think they have]
seen.
Sometimes they are right and sometimes they make a total rick
of things so sadly from the standard I watch and given the same
circumstances either the AR would raise his flag as soon as the
player takes control of the ball or it just gets let go and
rightly or wrongly the goal is allowed. Hence why I titled the
thread the way that I did.
Football wasn't formed in 1992 and it goes a lot deeper than
the Premier League but thank you for your response.
[/quote]
robbieg --just to simplify things for those of us who watch
football away from the 'elite levels'.
Football at the 'elite levels' exists with a totally different
interpretation of The Laws of the Game in the quest to achieve a
game of football that will always be 100% correct.
Just be grateful that you can watch a game at the Stadium of
Light with teams giving it what they have got and team of
officials who may not be the best, however, they will be doing
their best not to spoil the game and will give their decisions
instantly from what they see and the game will continue
regardlless.
#Post#: 33001--------------------------------------------------
Re: Daft question I know but..............
DIR By: ACTref
Date: June 15, 2021, 8:09 pm
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--- Quote from: scottie link ---
>
> I have another daft question! With the officials being ‘mics
up’ How come thd Assistants are not deafened when the referee
blows their whistle?
>
--- End Quote ---
Not a daft question at all, the comm sets that the officials use
are built and designed with this in mind, and will often either
automatically lower the volume, or filter any noises over a
certain decibel level. This is useful for not only the whistle,
but to also ensure the officials can hear clearly over
particularly loud crowd noises.
#Post#: 33003--------------------------------------------------
Re: Daft question I know but..............
DIR By: scottie
Date: June 16, 2021, 2:13 am
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Thank you, ACTref!
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