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Re: Robert Madley L2 Play-off Final Morecambe v Newport
DIR By: Hughesy66
Date: May 31, 2021, 6:19 pm
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I don’t remember seeing a comment from Nemesis and Hendo when Mr
Madley had a fine performance at Oxford in the semi finals and
yet here they are today. It would almost seem like an agenda
against this individual.
I felt some of the decisions were questionable, the early
penalty decision with the challenge on the goalkeeper in slow
motion is clear to see but in full speed I don’t think is as
clear.
As for the penalty, I may be in a minority here but there is
clearly a push albeit the attacker makes the most of it. The
contact begins outside the area and the push ends inside the
area, Sky said exactly this point. That therefore makes it a
penalty kick.
Throughout the game it was very clear that Mr Madley commanded
the respect of the players and smiled a lot with them. No
cautions in 90 minutes and I just find it very sad that none of
the people on here have ever had the pressure of such a game to
deal with so we cannot possibly understand how that must feel to
referee. It just seems like the same names every week cannot
wait to jump on certain referees at any opportunity.
On reflection, I’d say a soft penalty to win the game but by no
means incorrect and totally wrong to say it was outside as some
have. As an observer I would be saying a well controlled game, a
confident referee who moved well throughout, experience was
clear to see to slow the game down when needed...but a referees
life hinges on one or two big decisions. For me the first could
be given on another day, the one that was is absolutely not
incorrect. A push is a foul and it continued into the penalty
area. I’m staggered to see how people can say that is such a bad
decision. In my opinion that would never have been overturned by
VAR which maybe says enough.
*****(Last comment edited do not abuse other posters , not
acceptable on this forum !)****
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Re: Robert Madley L2 Play-off Final Morecambe v Newport
DIR By: REDSTRIPE
Date: June 1, 2021, 2:34 am
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--- Quote from: Hughesy66 link ---
>
> I don’t remember seeing a comment from Nemesis and Hendo when
Mr Madley had a fine performance at Oxford in the semi finals
and yet here they are today. It would almost seem like an agenda
against this individual.
>
> I felt some of the decisions were questionable, the early
penalty decision with the challenge on the goalkeeper in slow
motion is clear to see but in full speed I don’t think is as
clear.
>
> As for the penalty, I may be in a minority here but there is
clearly a push albeit the attacker makes the most of it. The
contact begins outside the area and the push ends inside the
area, Sky said exactly this point. That therefore makes it a
penalty kick.
>
> Throughout the game it was very clear that Mr Madley commanded
the respect of the players and smiled a lot with them. No
cautions in 90 minutes and I just find it very sad that none of
the people on here have ever had the pressure of such a game to
deal with so we cannot possibly understand how that must feel to
referee. It just seems like the same names every week cannot
wait to jump on certain referees at any opportunity.
>
> On reflection, I’d say a soft penalty to win the game but by
no means incorrect and totally wrong to say it was outside as
some have. As an observer I would be saying a well controlled
game, a confident referee who moved well throughout, experience
was clear to see to slow the game down when needed...but a
referees life hinges on one or two big decisions. For me the
first could be given on another day, the one that was is
absolutely not incorrect. A push is a foul and it continued into
the penalty area. I’m staggered to see how people can say that
is such a bad decision. In my opinion that would never have been
overturned by VAR which maybe says enough.
>
> ***Edited removed comment from original post***
>
--- End Quote ---
(edited)if you think that was a penalty!!
You seem to be the only one who does............bad bit of
observing that!
I thought he was poor throughout.......the players weren't
respecting him.....in fact Newport were getting more and more
frustrated with his odd decisions.......poor understanding of
what a foul is or isn't etc
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Re: Robert Madley L2 Play-off Final Morecambe v Newport
DIR By: Hughesy66
Date: June 1, 2021, 3:38 am
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Well let’s break it down then. Is there a push? Yes there is.
That’s fact. It then becomes a matter of opinion as to whether
you (or Mr Madley in this case) believe it was sufficient force
to make him fall over. Moving at speed as they were, it’s
possible. I did say the play makes the most of it which he
clearly does but the angle that shows it from where the referee
is looks a very clear penalty in my opinion so I can accept why
he awarded it.
Did the ‘foul’ continue into the penalty area? Yes it did. That
is a fact. So again it is purely down to the interpretation of
whether the push had enough force for a foul. The Sky pundits
accepted the foul, their expert analysis however said even
though it started outside and finished inside a free kick was a
better decision. Clearly they are wrong in law here.
So I’m not the only one in cloud cuckoo land at all as you
suggest. The Sky pundits accept it was a foul but questioned the
restart. I think from the angle the referee had it looks a clear
foul, the referee gets one view remember, only their view. They
don’t have the benefit of a replay to decide if it was a bit
soft or not
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Re: Robert Madley L2 Play-off Final Morecambe v Newport
DIR By: ajb95
Date: June 1, 2021, 6:08 am
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How many times do we see a penalty given for the goalkeeper
missing the ball and punching the attacker in the head?
I can’t remember any...
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Re: Robert Madley L2 Play-off Final Morecambe v Newport
DIR By: nemesis
Date: June 1, 2021, 7:41 am
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--- Quote from: Hughesy66 link ---
>
> I don’t remember seeing a comment from Nemesis and Hendo when
Mr Madley had a fine performance at Oxford in the semi finals
and yet here they are today.
>
> Haters gonna hate though aren’t they Hendo and Nemesis...such
a shame
>
--- End Quote ---
That'd be because I didn't see that "fine" performance.
My hate generally centres on injustice. No shame in that.
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Re: Robert Madley L2 Play-off Final Morecambe v Newport
DIR By: Hughesy66
Date: June 1, 2021, 8:02 am
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Hate?? Wow
The injustice of what? I have seen certain members have these
views for a long time, I read the page for a long time before
becoming a member and this always intrigued me.
Genuinely, was there an incident that Mr Madley did that would
lead to your hatred?
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Re: Robert Madley L2 Play-off Final Morecambe v Newport
DIR By: Ashington46
Date: June 1, 2021, 9:13 am
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--- Quote from: ajb95 link ---
>
> How many times do we see a penalty given for the goalkeeper
missing the ball and punching the attacker in the head?
>
> I can’t remember any...
>
--- End Quote ---
Certainly not in the way that this actually played out. Keeper
was committed and it did not affect the header which the
attacker got in.
It is an imposiibilty for a player to stop when he is in mid air
as the keeper was.
I suppose that the next thing IFAB can bring in will be that a
keeper is not allowed to punch a ball because it constitutes a
danger to an opponent ----oh I forgot ------and it might hurt
the ball.
It is interesting that the clamour for VAR comes about when it
isn't there, however, the clamour to get rid of it is
consistently mentioned when it is there!
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Re: Robert Madley L2 Play-off Final Morecambe v Newport
DIR By: REDSTRIPE
Date: June 1, 2021, 9:18 am
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--- Quote from: Ashington46 link ---
>
> [quote author=ajb95 link=topic=2524.msg32298#msg32298
date=1622545714]
> How many times do we see a penalty given for the goalkeeper
missing the ball and punching the attacker in the head?
>
> I can’t remember any...
>
--- End Quote ---
Certainly not in the way that this actually played out. Keeper
was committed and it did not affect the header which the
attacker got in.
It is an imposiibilty for a player to stop when he is in mid air
as the keeper was.
I suppose that the next thing IFAB can bring in will be that a
keeper is not allowed to punch a ball because it constitutes a
danger to an opponent ----oh I forgot ------and it might hurt
the ball.
It is interesting that the clamour for VAR comes about when it
isn't there, however, the clamour to get rid of it is
consistently mentioned when it is there!
[/quote]Use VAR correctly and it's ok..............but they
don't even follow their own 'rules'!
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Re: Robert Madley L2 Play-off Final Morecambe v Newport
DIR By: guest42
Date: June 1, 2021, 11:32 am
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--- Quote from: Hughesy66 link ---
>
> Hate?? Wow
>
> The injustice of what? I have seen certain members have these
views for a long time, I read the page for a long time before
becoming a member and this always intrigued me.
> Genuinely, was there an incident that Mr Madley did that would
lead to your hatred?
>
--- End Quote ---
To play Devil’s advocate here - you’re the one who brought the
word “hate” into this first.
Nemesis simply defending the slur on his character you threw his
way.
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Re: Robert Madley L2 Play-off Final Morecambe v Newport
DIR By: Hendo
Date: June 1, 2021, 5:10 pm
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--- Quote from: nemesis link ---
>
> [quote author=Hughesy66 link=topic=2524.msg32290#msg32290
date=1622503158]
> I don’t remember seeing a comment from Nemesis and Hendo when
Mr Madley had a fine performance at Oxford in the semi finals
and yet here they are today.
>
> Haters gonna hate though aren’t they Hendo and Nemesis...such
a shame
>
--- End Quote ---
That'd be because I didn't see that "fine" performance.
My hate generally centres on injustice. No shame in that.
[/quote]
My own negative view of Madley has been aired for a long time -
a very overrated ref who was promoted to SG1 and FIFA for
reasons I could never fathom. He then proceeded to get a spate
of top games, in many of which he displayed a certain degree of
arrogance in his attitude towards the player - “I am the great
Booby Madley and nobody messes with me”. (Yes I know others
claim he is not at all like that but that is the impression he
gave me and I know he gave others too).
He then had a season of very underwhelming performances, during
which as we know he was suspended and then fired by the PGMOL.
His crime, in case Hughes66 is not aware, was sending what he
thought was a hilarious text to a friend about a disabled person
- to me another show of arrogance on his part - which his
shocked friend shared with Madleys employers who terminated his
contract.
As someone who has worked extensively with disabled and special
needs adults and children I have found them some of the
loveliest and bravest people who bear their difficulties with
great courage and dignity, which made my blood boil at Madleys
attitude. To me that alone was unforgivable and should have been
the end of his career.
But no; a spell in Norway trying to climb the ladder there while
living with a new partner was followed by a return here for some
reason, a contrite cap in hand approach to the FA and they
amazingly took him back. One year on there is talk already of
him being back to SG2 and SG1, which must rankle with those
honest toilers in the lower divisions who give 109% each week
hoping for the chance of a step up the ladder and yet this
arrant individual walks back into the frame and gets immediate
promotion.
I know many won’t agree with me but this will always be my
attitude towards Madley.,
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