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Re: international friendlies?
By: ajb95 Date: June 3, 2021, 1:58 pm
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Stupid question but international refs are still observed even
in friendlies?
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Re: international friendlies?
By: RCG Date: June 3, 2021, 3:50 pm
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Not a silly question and I doubt it. Not formally anyway
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Re: international friendlies?
By: tomp Date: June 4, 2021, 3:43 am
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6th June 2021
ENGLAND - ROMANIA (Riverside Stadium)
Referee: Tiago Martins (POR)
Assistant Referee 1: André Campos (POR)
Assistant Referee 2: Pedro Almeida (POR)
Fourth Official: António Nobre (POR)
8th June 2021
Hungary V Republic of Ireland
Referee: Daniel Stefanski (POL)
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Re: international friendlies?
By: spk Date: June 4, 2021, 3:53 am
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[quote author=rustyref link=topic=2515.msg32351#msg32351
date=1622671557]
[quote author=Acme Thunderer link=topic=2515.msg32350#msg32350
date=1622670782]
Not sure who was refereeing France v Wales but the early red
card for Williams of Wales for handball, apparently following a
VAR check, seemed extremely harsh. Handball? Possibly, but only
possibly, according to current interpretation. Goal bound? No.
And that in a friendly match.
[/quote]
Haven't seen it, but there is no VAR in friendlies.
[/quote]
Sorry to say, but before the Euros there are in some matches.
Poland - Russia, France - Wales and Netherlands - Georgia are
the games to be set up with VAR.
Here is a link which shows the whole incident.
HTML https://www.caughtoffside.com/2021/06/02/video-liverpool-ace-neco-williams-shown-red-card-against-france-in-ridiculous-handball-decision-that-hurts-wales/
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Re: international friendlies?
By: RefObserver Date: June 4, 2021, 5:30 am
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I might be in the minority here but fir me that decision is
fine.
The arms (both) are outstretched away from his body, thus making
himself bigger.
The arms are still moving when they block what for me looks a
goal bound shot (instep of forward at an inwards angle towards
goal, keeper on floor).
I think it is a DOGSO and correct in law.
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Re: international friendlies?
By: Acme Thunderer Date: June 4, 2021, 5:40 am
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[quote author=RefObserver link=topic=2515.msg32389#msg32389
date=1622802615]
I might be in the minority here but fir me that decision is
fine.
The arms (both) are outstretched away from his body, thus making
himself bigger.
The arms are still moving when they block what for me looks a
goal bound shot (instep of forward at an inwards angle towards
goal, keeper on floor).
I think it is a DOGSO and correct in law.
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I'm OK with your view RefObserver, but this was an
'international friendly' and I would ask the question, what the
so-and-so was VAR being used in this and a few other
'friendlies'? From what I saw of the incident, this was one
which the ref would not have given had VAR not checked it out.
As it is, a Welsh player has to sit out a game in the build-up
to the Euros, and if VAR is used in the remaining friendlies to
come, then a player could be sitting out the first of the Euro
group games, which seems patently unfair. All or nothing in my
view!
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Re: international friendlies?
By: bmb Date: June 4, 2021, 7:27 am
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VAR training/match experience for match officials where it's not
used domestically perhaps? There's a few refs at the Euro's
whose domestic leagues [s]aren't yet blighted[/s] ahem don't
have VAR so their opportunities for match experience are
limited. Saudi Arabia have always been very accommodating in
allowing Federations to send people there for VAR experience as
are Greece but, as there is this whole global pandemic still
sticking around, there have been issues with not being allowed
to travel.
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Re: international friendlies?
By: Acme Thunderer Date: June 4, 2021, 7:50 am
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I certainly don't have an issue with VAR being used in friendly
internationals 'for training purposes'. However it should not be
used in these instances to get players red carded. Instead
incidents such as that in the France v Wales match should be
noted as a potential red card offence missed by the referee and
no further action should be taken. I note that the Wales
authority are looking to appeal the red card and I hope they
succeed.
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Re: international friendlies?
By: rustyref Date: June 4, 2021, 11:08 am
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Agree, his arms just shouldn't be up there. I don't think he
has intentionally handled it, but under the current laws that is
handball, and once it is given a red card is inevitable.
That said, I really don't think VAR should be being used in
friendlies.
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Re: international friendlies?
By: bmb Date: June 4, 2021, 2:26 pm
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[quote author=tomp link=topic=2515.msg32373#msg32373
date=1622736991]
[quote author=bmb link=topic=2515.msg32372#msg32372
date=1622736694]
I can't see a listing for the Hungary v Cyprus game tomorrow. I
have looked on the uefa website!
If anyone can help please...
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According to the law 5 website, Matej Jug is the referee. No
assistants or fourth official listed though.
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Full line up courtesy of Law 5 Twitter peep.
HUNGARY - CYPRUS
Referee: Matej Jug (SVN)
Assistant Referee 1:Matej Žunič (SVN)
Assistant Referee 2:Grega Kordež (SVN)
Fourth Official:Michal Očenáš (SVK)
They are in y****w to their shame! [emoji16]
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