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Andre Marriner - Arsenal v Chelsea
DIR By: bradj123
Date: May 12, 2021, 2:43 pm
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Interesting incident that led to Arsenal's opener. Chelsea
player misplaces a clear pass to his goalkeeper and, it's going
in the net for an OG, but the goalkeeper dives across and claws
it off the line with his hand just in time.
Regardless, Arsenal eventually turn the rebound in for 0-1.
However, at no stage did Marriner appear to consider blowing for
the clear backpass, or indicate advantage. It would have been
interesting had the Chelsea defence cleared the ball.
In this situation, I wonder if Marriner did just "wait and see"
(I guess so, common sense). If the backpass was given
incidentally, what further action (if any) can be taken as the
GK would have appeared to have denied a goal?
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Re: Andre Marriner - Arsenal v Chelsea
DIR By: rustyref
Date: May 12, 2021, 3:07 pm
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All it could be is an indirect free kick. From law ...
[I]If the goalkeeper handles the ball inside their penalty area
when not permitted to do so, an indirect free kick is awarded
but there is no disciplinary sanction[/I]
The problem would come about if too long had passed to go back
from the advantage if Arsenal made a mess of the attack, but
fair play to Andre he got this spot on.
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Re: Andre Marriner - Arsenal v Chelsea
DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
Date: May 12, 2021, 3:09 pm
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Sky have just clarified the law.
It’s a FK on the 6 yard line and no card for the keeper.
I genuinely didn’t know that legislation so that’s something
I’ve learnt today!!
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Re: Andre Marriner - Arsenal v Chelsea
DIR By: bradj123
Date: May 12, 2021, 3:28 pm
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I recognise the law but it surely raises an argument perhaps for
sterner punishment for goalkeepers in this case... Even had the
indirect free-kick been given, the chance of a goal isn't
massive so, as it stands, goalkeepers could well take the risk
in this situation in the future? It's almost a handball DOGSO
without fear of red card.
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Re: Andre Marriner - Arsenal v Chelsea
DIR By: ajb95
Date: May 12, 2021, 4:19 pm
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A goalkeeper cannot be sent off for handball inside their own
area as this is considered “their area” which differs them from
outfield players but they can be sent off for DOGSO, VC, SFP
etc.
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Re: Andre Marriner - Arsenal v Chelsea
DIR By: ARF
Date: May 12, 2021, 4:51 pm
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--- Quote from: ajb95 link ---
>
> A goalkeeper cannot be sent off for handball inside their own
area as this is considered “their area” which differs them from
outfield players but they can be sent off for DOGSO, VC, SFP
etc.
>
--- End Quote ---
(with the exception that if the handling is a second touch from
a goal kick or free kick and it denies an obvious goalscoring
opportunity, they would be sent off)
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Re: Andre Marriner - Arsenal v Chelsea
DIR By: RCG
Date: May 12, 2021, 5:30 pm
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Unless I am wrong, you cannot score a goal against yourself
directly from a goal kick or free kick, so how could a 2nd
touch, albeit with hands, be denying a goal? Best thing to do is
let it in unless I am guessing an attacker must be v close by.
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Re: Andre Marriner - Arsenal v Chelsea
DIR By: LateTackle
Date: May 12, 2021, 8:41 pm
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--- Quote from: TheThingFromLewes link ---
>
> Sky have just clarified the law.
>
> It’s a FK on the 6 yard line and no card for the keeper.
>
> I genuinely didn’t know that legislation so that’s something
I’ve learnt today!!
>
--- End Quote ---
I was aware of this and saw it incorrectly applied some years
ago in a game at the Ricoh by Salisbury Senior. He actually had
three goes at setting up the free kick but still got it wrong by
ordering it to be taken on the side line of the goal area for
some reason. The whole stadium was falling about laughing in
the end.
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Re: Andre Marriner - Arsenal v Chelsea
DIR By: RefObserver
Date: May 13, 2021, 3:02 am
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--- Quote from: RCG link ---
>
> Unless I am wrong, you cannot score a goal against yourself
directly from a goal kick or free kick, so how could a 2nd
touch, albeit with hands, be denying a goal? Best thing to do is
let it in unless I am guessing an attacker must be v close by.
>
--- End Quote ---
The scenario ARF (and indeed law) refers to is if the keeper
takes said FK or GK but it is going to an opponent who would
score, it is a DOGSO offence and red card if they take a 2nd
touch with hands to stop opponent playing the ball, not if it
was going in.
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Re: Andre Marriner - Arsenal v Chelsea
DIR By: Ref Watcher
Date: May 13, 2021, 3:52 am
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--- Quote from: TheThingFromLewes link ---
>
> Sky have just clarified the law.
>
--- End Quote ---
And in a remarkable turn up for the books Sky clarified the Law
very accurately and concisely.
Had I been Andre Marriner I would have been running back to the
halfway line signalling advantage as if my life depended on it
but he has less need to make sure everyone notices his good
decisions than I do!
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