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       #Post#: 31501--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Stadium Debate (UCL Final 2021
   DIR By: bmb
       Date: May 13, 2021, 6:59 pm
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       --- Quote from: rustyref link ---
       >
       > [quote author=nemesis link=topic=2437.msg31463#msg31463
       date=1620916190]
       > [quote author=rustyref link=topic=2437.msg31314#msg31314
       date=1620670444]
       > Seems to be looking like Portugal as the UK government won't
       back down on allowing sponsors and general UEFA bigwigs to enter
       without quarantine measures.
       >
       > To me that would be the best outcome.  I never thought it
       should be in England, but it was very clear it couldn't be in
       Turkey, so it is looking like a sensible compromise might be
       reached.
       >
       >
  HTML https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57051804
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Sensible if the supporters are viewed as the least important
       aspect.
       [/quote]
       Was never going to be in the UK as UEFA were insistent that
       their bigwigs and sponsors were allowed in without quarantine.
       Portugal must have agreed to that, but it would have been
       political suicide for the UK government to agree.
       [/quote]
       Match officials, UEFA referee observer, UEFA match delegate,
       UEFA safety officer, so required and not corporates, were not
       allowed in without quarantine either. Personally I view them as
       more important to the match going ahead.
       #Post#: 31507--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Stadium Debate (UCL Final 2021
   DIR By: Ref Watcher
       Date: May 14, 2021, 4:02 am
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       --- Quote from: bmb link ---
       >
       > [quote author=rustyref link=topic=2437.msg31470#msg31470
       date=1620922998]
       > [quote author=nemesis link=topic=2437.msg31463#msg31463
       date=1620916190]
       > [quote author=rustyref link=topic=2437.msg31314#msg31314
       date=1620670444]
       > Seems to be looking like Portugal as the UK government won't
       back down on allowing sponsors and general UEFA bigwigs to enter
       without quarantine measures.
       >
       > To me that would be the best outcome.  I never thought it
       should be in England, but it was very clear it couldn't be in
       Turkey, so it is looking like a sensible compromise might be
       reached.
       >
       >
  HTML https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57051804
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Sensible if the supporters are viewed as the least important
       aspect.
       [/quote]
       Was never going to be in the UK as UEFA were insistent that
       their bigwigs and sponsors were allowed in without quarantine.
       Portugal must have agreed to that, but it would have been
       political suicide for the UK government to agree.
       [/quote]
       Match officials, UEFA referee observer, UEFA match delegate,
       UEFA safety officer, so required and not corporates, were not
       allowed in without quarantine either. Personally I view them as
       more important to the match going ahead.
       [/quote]
       UEFA gets all its money from corporates.  They view the presence
       of sponsors at its events to be as important as that of the
       players and other participants.
       #Post#: 31518--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Stadium Debate (UCL Final 2021
   DIR By: bmb
       Date: May 14, 2021, 5:15 am
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       --- Quote from: Ref Watcher link ---
       >
       > [quote author=bmb link=topic=2437.msg31501#msg31501
       date=1620950363]
       > [quote author=rustyref link=topic=2437.msg31470#msg31470
       date=1620922998]
       > [quote author=nemesis link=topic=2437.msg31463#msg31463
       date=1620916190]
       > [quote author=rustyref link=topic=2437.msg31314#msg31314
       date=1620670444]
       > Seems to be looking like Portugal as the UK government won't
       back down on allowing sponsors and general UEFA bigwigs to enter
       without quarantine measures.
       >
       > To me that would be the best outcome.  I never thought it
       should be in England, but it was very clear it couldn't be in
       Turkey, so it is looking like a sensible compromise might be
       reached.
       >
       >
  HTML https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57051804
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Sensible if the supporters are viewed as the least important
       aspect.
       [/quote]
       Was never going to be in the UK as UEFA were insistent that
       their bigwigs and sponsors were allowed in without quarantine.
       Portugal must have agreed to that, but it would have been
       political suicide for the UK government to agree.
       [/quote]
       Match officials, UEFA referee observer, UEFA match delegate,
       UEFA safety officer, so required and not corporates, were not
       allowed in without quarantine either. Personally I view them as
       more important to the match going ahead.
       [/quote]
       UEFA gets all its money from corporates.  They view the presence
       of sponsors at its events to be as important as that of the
       players and other participants.
       [/quote]
       More importantly probably, the football is just a sideshow for
       the corporate entity, and I get that but it's not just them that
       are affected by the UK government's refusal to allow exceptions.
       There are also those that are actually vital to the sideshow
       even going ahead affected by it.
       #Post#: 31519--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Stadium Debate (UCL Final 2021
   DIR By: Toprefm
       Date: May 14, 2021, 5:17 am
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       So how will the fact that Portugal according to news this
       morning may not to be open to UK visitors as from Monday 17th
       but from potentially now the 30th May affect the final!!!
       #Post#: 31530--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Stadium Debate (UCL Final 2021
   DIR By: rustyref
       Date: May 14, 2021, 11:21 am
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       --- Quote from: bmb link ---
       >
       > [quote author=rustyref link=topic=2437.msg31470#msg31470
       date=1620922998]
       > [quote author=nemesis link=topic=2437.msg31463#msg31463
       date=1620916190]
       > [quote author=rustyref link=topic=2437.msg31314#msg31314
       date=1620670444]
       > Seems to be looking like Portugal as the UK government won't
       back down on allowing sponsors and general UEFA bigwigs to enter
       without quarantine measures.
       >
       > To me that would be the best outcome.  I never thought it
       should be in England, but it was very clear it couldn't be in
       Turkey, so it is looking like a sensible compromise might be
       reached.
       >
       >
  HTML https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57051804
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Sensible if the supporters are viewed as the least important
       aspect.
       [/quote]
       Was never going to be in the UK as UEFA were insistent that
       their bigwigs and sponsors were allowed in without quarantine.
       Portugal must have agreed to that, but it would have been
       political suicide for the UK government to agree.
       [/quote]
       Match officials, UEFA referee observer, UEFA match delegate,
       UEFA safety officer, so required and not corporates, were not
       allowed in without quarantine either. Personally I view them as
       more important to the match going ahead.
       [/quote]
       Only from red zone countries.  Orsato refereed the semi-final at
       Stamford Bridge, along with a Belgian delegate, and they didn't
       have to quarantine as there is an exemption for professional
       sports, just not for the red zone.
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