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Re: Stadium Debate (UCL Final 2021
DIR By: ben
Date: May 7, 2021, 4:22 pm
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Surely it has to be moved.
UK Gov have said they’re happy to host it, I’m sure it’ll be
arranged somehow.
Villa Park, Spurs Ground, Old Trafford...
There’s plenty of options.
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Re: Stadium Debate (UCL Final 2021
DIR By: Ashington46
Date: May 8, 2021, 2:48 am
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Playing Devil's Advocate my question is "Why should UEFA move
the final?"
These two teams have recently been part of a breakaway movement
that wanted to play most of their matches in Europe with no
thought whatsoever for their fans so why shouldn't UEFA give
them the opportunity.
If they do move it, will they allow fans to attend and, if they
do, how can anyone reconcile that with the fact that, although
they allowed a limited number of fans for a cup semi-final
featuring two PL sides, they would not allow fans for the Vase
and Trophy finals which took place two weeks later, ostensibly
in a much healthier country.
Will it be a case of 'money talks'? Watch this space with
interest.
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Re: Stadium Debate (UCL Final 2021
DIR By: rustyref
Date: May 8, 2021, 3:27 am
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--- Quote from: Ashington46 link ---
>
> Playing Devil's Advocate my question is "Why should UEFA move
the final?"
>
> These two teams have recently been part of a breakaway
movement that wanted to play most of their matches in Europe
with no thought whatsoever for their fans so why shouldn't UEFA
give them the opportunity.
>
> If they do move it, will they allow fans to attend and, if
they do, how can anyone reconcile that with the fact that,
although they allowed a limited number of fans for a cup
semi-final featuring two PL sides, they would not allow fans for
the Vase and Trophy finals which took place two weeks later,
ostensibly in a much healthier country.
>
> Will it be a case of 'money talks'? Watch this space with
interest.
>
--- End Quote ---
Because it is due to be played in a country with one of the
highest Covid infection rates in the World. That alone is a
valid enough reason, it doesn't need to move to England and
could be anywhere with a low infection rate.
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Re: Stadium Debate (UCL Final 2021
DIR By: guest3
Date: May 8, 2021, 4:39 am
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I am certain that Erdoğan won't be happy if they take the
final from Turkey second year in a row....
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Re: Stadium Debate (UCL Final 2021
DIR By: Claretman
Date: May 8, 2021, 5:18 am
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--- Quote from: rustyref link ---
>
> [quote author=Ashington46 link=topic=2437.msg31136#msg31136
date=1620460138]
> Playing Devil's Advocate my question is "Why should UEFA move
the final?"
>
> These two teams have recently been part of a breakaway
movement that wanted to play most of their matches in Europe
with no thought whatsoever for their fans so why shouldn't UEFA
give them the opportunity.
>
> If they do move it, will they allow fans to attend and, if
they do, how can anyone reconcile that with the fact that,
although they allowed a limited number of fans for a cup
semi-final featuring two PL sides, they would not allow fans for
the Vase and Trophy finals which took place two weeks later,
ostensibly in a much healthier country.
>
> Will it be a case of 'money talks'? Watch this space with
interest.
>
--- End Quote ---
Because it is due to be played in a country with one of the
highest Covid infection rates in the World. That alone is a
valid enough reason, it doesn't need to move to England and
could be anywhere with a low infection rate.
[/quote]
Time for the players and clubs to stand up, if eufa wont move
the final, they should refuse to travel to a country
With a very high infection rate on health and safety grounds.
Agree rustyref the game could be played in any european country
with low infection rates.
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Re: Stadium Debate (UCL Final 2021
DIR By: Ashington46
Date: May 8, 2021, 5:59 am
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Should be played in a country that is on the 'Green' list with
no need to quarantine --- Portugal. Gibraltar, Israel, Iceland
and Faroe Islands are all within reach.
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Re: Stadium Debate (UCL Final 2021
DIR By: bmb
Date: May 8, 2021, 7:25 am
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Windsor Park Belfast
Lansdowne Road Dublin (well Aviva Stadium I think it's called
now)
Both in the CTA anyway so no quarantine etc
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Re: Stadium Debate (UCL Final 2021
DIR By: Irrelohe
Date: May 8, 2021, 7:27 am
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Again playing devil's advocate, I think most of the responses
on this have been very "Britocentric". This is a UEFA
competition, and this year the final was awarded to a stadium in
Turkey. It so happens that two English teams have reached the
final, but that has not in itself been a reason, historically,
for the final to be moved to a stadium in the country of the two
finalists. UEFA obviously consider that this year it continues
to be safe for the final to be played in Turkey. The fact that
it may not be possible, or at least practicable, as a matter of
UK law for fans based in the UK (or at least England) to attend
is, I would suggest, irrelevant as far as UEFA is concerned..
The concept of a red list is an invention of the UK government
and is - and should be - of no concern to UEFA, whose concern is
and should be merely the hosting of the final. I do not hold any
brief for Turkey - far from it - and I do not profess to be
aware of the detailed conditions under which UEFA awarded the
final, but I think that some balance is appropriate here. I
await the brickbats.
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Re: Stadium Debate (UCL Final 2021
DIR By: greeny
Date: May 8, 2021, 7:31 am
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It's not just fans - it affects both teams as well. Everyone on
both sides would have to self isolate for 10 days on their
return if it stays in Istanbul. I just don't understand why
they would play it in a country with huge numbers of Covid cases
when there are numerous countries around Europe which would be
much safer.
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Re: Stadium Debate (UCL Final 2021
DIR By: TVOS
Date: May 8, 2021, 7:46 am
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--- Quote from: Irrelohe link ---
>
> Again playing devil's advocate, I think most of the responses
on this have been very "Britocentric". This is a UEFA
competition, and this year the final was awarded to a stadium in
Turkey. It so happens that two English teams have reached the
final, but that has not in itself been a reason, historically,
for the final to be moved to a stadium in the country of the two
finalists. UEFA obviously consider that this year it continues
to be safe for the final to be played in Turkey. The fact that
it may not be possible, or at least practicable, as a matter of
UK law for fans based in the UK (or at least England) to attend
is, I would suggest, irrelevant as far as UEFA is concerned..
The concept of a red list is an invention of the UK government
and is - and should be - of no concern to UEFA, whose concern is
and should be merely the hosting of the final. I do not hold any
brief for Turkey - far from it - and I do not profess to be
aware of the detailed conditions under which UEFA awarded the
final, but I think that some balance is appropriate here. I
await the brickbats.
>
--- End Quote ---
When Turkey was awarded the final, there wasn't a global
pandemic. Moving it away from there - and letting them host it
another time - is the most sensible decision in what are very
unprecedented times, rather like letting Taylor and Oliver
referee their second FA Cup Finals.
Also saying "UEFA, whose concern is and should be merely the
hosting of the final" is extremely insensitive and immoral.
Sounds to me like you're "Anti-Britocentric"!
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