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Bobby Madley
DIR By: Barneyx
Date: May 1, 2021, 10:09 am
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I know that Bobby Madley is anxious to claw his way back on to
the Premier League list but having just watched 45 mins of the
Hull c v Wigan Ath game I am afraid that could be a long way
off. Awful performance from Madley. I'm sure he must improve in
the 2nd half. He couldnt be any worse.
#Post#: 30667--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bobby Madley
DIR By: DublinRef
Date: May 1, 2021, 10:56 am
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--- Quote from: Barneyx link ---
>
> I know that Bobby Madley is anxious to claw his way back on to
the Premier League list but having just watched 45 mins of the
Hull c v Wigan Ath game I am afraid that could be a long way
off. Awful performance from Madley. I'm sure he must improve in
the 2nd half. He couldnt be any worse.
>
--- End Quote ---
Any specific criticisms?
#Post#: 30684--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bobby Madley
DIR By: Hendo
Date: May 1, 2021, 3:48 pm
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I for one sincerely hope the F A don’t fall for this and bend
any rules to get him back on the PL. He was vastly overrated in
the first place and came across as arrogant, which I suspect may
have had some bearing on the offence which saw him banned. He
turned his back on this country to set up home with his
Norwegian girlfriend and try his luck in that country, only to
return here to try and re- establish his career.
There are plenty of other refs, hard grafters, who deserve a
chance of promotion if good enough. Madley should be given no
favours or special treatment and only promoted on merit. From
Barneys report that would seem a long way off. What would really
p*** me off would be for the F A to fast track him to the PL and
then offer him his FIFA place again at the detriment of some
other more deserving referee.
#Post#: 30688--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bobby Madley
DIR By: DublinRef
Date: May 1, 2021, 5:29 pm
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--- Quote from: Hendo link ---
>
> I for one sincerely hope the F A don’t fall for this and bend
any rules to get him back on the PL. He was vastly overrated in
the first place and came across as arrogant, which I suspect may
have had some bearing on the offence which saw him banned. He
turned his back on this country to set up home with his
Norwegian girlfriend and try his luck in that country, only to
return here to try and re- establish his career.
> There are plenty of other refs, hard grafters, who deserve a
chance of promotion if good enough. Madley should be given no
favours or special treatment and only promoted on merit. From
Barneys report that would seem a long way off. What would really
p*** me off would be for the F A to fast track him to the PL and
then offer him his FIFA place again at the detriment of some
other more deserving referee.
>
--- End Quote ---
I certainly agree that he should not be fast tracked unless of
course his performances merit a meteoric rise. That would be
very unfair on others who have been developing in his absence.
I do think it is unfair to say that he turned his back on his
country. Whether we agree or disagree with his sacking he was
left, very much overnight, without a career. I don't think one
can blame him for following an opportunity that could have put
him on a path to reach top level refereeing in Norway and I can
certainly understand why he would want to have a change of
scenery given the very public nature of his dismissal (not to
mention his partner being Norwegian).
#Post#: 30690--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bobby Madley
DIR By: Whistleblower
Date: May 2, 2021, 1:37 am
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--- Quote from: DublinRef link ---
>
> [quote author=Hendo link=topic=2413.msg30684#msg30684
date=1619902097]
> I for one sincerely hope the F A don’t fall for this and bend
any rules to get him back on the PL. He was vastly overrated in
the first place and came across as arrogant, which I suspect may
have had some bearing on the offence which saw him banned. He
turned his back on this country to set up home with his
Norwegian girlfriend and try his luck in that country, only to
return here to try and re- establish his career.
> There are plenty of other refs, hard grafters, who deserve a
chance of promotion if good enough. Madley should be given no
favours or special treatment and only promoted on merit. From
Barneys report that would seem a long way off. What would really
p*** me off would be for the F A to fast track him to the PL and
then offer him his FIFA place again at the detriment of some
other more deserving referee.
>
--- End Quote ---
I certainly agree that he should not be fast tracked unless of
course his performances merit a meteoric rise. That would be
very unfair on others who have been developing in his absence.
I do think it is unfair to say that he turned his back on his
country. Whether we agree or disagree with his sacking he was
left, very much overnight, without a career. I don't think one
can blame him for following an opportunity that could have put
him on a path to reach top level refereeing in Norway and I can
certainly understand why he would want to have a change of
scenery given the very public nature of his dismissal (not to
mention his partner being Norwegian).
[/quote]
These are all very fair points I think. I suspect there are
quite a few others in front of him in the queue for SG1 and FIFA
status. Is it known why he did not pursue his Norwegian path and
came back to the UK ?
#Post#: 30691--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bobby Madley
DIR By: spk
Date: May 2, 2021, 2:59 am
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--- Quote from: Whistleblower link ---
>
> [quote author=DublinRef link=topic=2413.msg30688#msg30688
date=1619908155]
> [quote author=Hendo link=topic=2413.msg30684#msg30684
date=1619902097]
> I for one sincerely hope the F A don’t fall for this and bend
any rules to get him back on the PL. He was vastly overrated in
the first place and came across as arrogant, which I suspect may
have had some bearing on the offence which saw him banned. He
turned his back on this country to set up home with his
Norwegian girlfriend and try his luck in that country, only to
return here to try and re- establish his career.
> There are plenty of other refs, hard grafters, who deserve a
chance of promotion if good enough. Madley should be given no
favours or special treatment and only promoted on merit. From
Barneys report that would seem a long way off. What would really
p*** me off would be for the F A to fast track him to the PL and
then offer him his FIFA place again at the detriment of some
other more deserving referee.
>
--- End Quote ---
I certainly agree that he should not be fast tracked unless of
course his performances merit a meteoric rise. That would be
very unfair on others who have been developing in his absence.
I do think it is unfair to say that he turned his back on his
country. Whether we agree or disagree with his sacking he was
left, very much overnight, without a career. I don't think one
can blame him for following an opportunity that could have put
him on a path to reach top level refereeing in Norway and I can
certainly understand why he would want to have a change of
scenery given the very public nature of his dismissal (not to
mention his partner being Norwegian).
[/quote]
These are all very fair points I think. I suspect there are
quite a few others in front of him in the queue for SG1 and FIFA
status. Is it known why he did not pursue his Norwegian path and
came back to the UK ?
[/quote]
Yes, it is. He was open about it when he left us here in Oslo.
But I think I'll leave it with that. There are definately not
any exciting secrets there.
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Re: Bobby Madley
DIR By: DublinRef
Date: May 2, 2021, 3:48 am
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--- Quote from: spk link ---
>
> [quote author=Whistleblower link=topic=2413.msg30690#msg30690
date=1619937428]
> [quote author=DublinRef link=topic=2413.msg30688#msg30688
date=1619908155]
> [quote author=Hendo link=topic=2413.msg30684#msg30684
date=1619902097]
> I for one sincerely hope the F A don’t fall for this and bend
any rules to get him back on the PL. He was vastly overrated in
the first place and came across as arrogant, which I suspect may
have had some bearing on the offence which saw him banned. He
turned his back on this country to set up home with his
Norwegian girlfriend and try his luck in that country, only to
return here to try and re- establish his career.
> There are plenty of other refs, hard grafters, who deserve a
chance of promotion if good enough. Madley should be given no
favours or special treatment and only promoted on merit. From
Barneys report that would seem a long way off. What would really
p*** me off would be for the F A to fast track him to the PL and
then offer him his FIFA place again at the detriment of some
other more deserving referee.
>
--- End Quote ---
I certainly agree that he should not be fast tracked unless of
course his performances merit a meteoric rise. That would be
very unfair on others who have been developing in his absence.
I do think it is unfair to say that he turned his back on his
country. Whether we agree or disagree with his sacking he was
left, very much overnight, without a career. I don't think one
can blame him for following an opportunity that could have put
him on a path to reach top level refereeing in Norway and I can
certainly understand why he would want to have a change of
scenery given the very public nature of his dismissal (not to
mention his partner being Norwegian).
[/quote]
These are all very fair points I think. I suspect there are
quite a few others in front of him in the queue for SG1 and FIFA
status. Is it known why he did not pursue his Norwegian path and
came back to the UK ?
[/quote]
Yes, it is. He was open about it when he left us here in Oslo.
But I think I'll leave it with that. There are definately not
any exciting secrets there.
[/quote]
H???
I had assumed that he moved back as he had been given a place on
the national list in England while he was lower down the pyramid
in Norway.
#Post#: 30701--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bobby Madley
DIR By: TVOS
Date: May 2, 2021, 5:46 am
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Totally unscientific, I know, and in the absence of any further
explanation from the opening poster, I notice he was given 8/10
in the Football League Paper for yesterday's game...
#Post#: 30708--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bobby Madley
DIR By: bmb
Date: May 2, 2021, 7:46 am
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--- Quote from: Hendo link ---
>
> He was vastly overrated in the first place and came across as
arrogant, which I suspect may have had some bearing on the
offence which saw him banned.
>
>
--- End Quote ---
I'm going to defend Bobby here. We are not friends, but we are
acquaintances. If we see each other we will have a natter and a
cuppa but neither of us would go out of the way to pick up a
phone to just say hi how are you kind of thing. He is far from
arrogant. When Jr was still refereeing Bobby was one who had a
lot to do with him, coaching, mentoring, giving him advice,
listening to him when he just wanted someone to talk to.
Despite it being a very long drive home from Bournemouth, if Jr
wanted to talk for 2 hours, Bobby would sit and talk to him for
that long. When Bobby found out Jr had been racially abused when
refereeing he was absolutely mortified and wanted to know what,
if anything, he could do to help a very distressed at the time
jr. The shock & hurt was written all over his face, it was
genuine - he couldn't hide it. Bobby I mean. They had a lot of
email exchanges and he was always very supportive. Even after Jr
decided he was not going to referee anymore as a result of it,
the support was still there, encouraging him to work hard in
school and to behave himself. Years later he was delighted with
GCSE results, A level results and jr getting into uni. I
followed him on Twitter when he was on there & he was always
encouraging towards referees on there, talking listening,
offering advice, trying to help them learn and grow. He comes
across as a thoroughly decent guy and always seems to have all
the time in the world to talk about football and refereeing in
general as well as offer his support to others.
In terms of his refereeing I was never a fan. Wigan away FA cup
before the glory days and Wigan still being a big team. Not only
did he fail to give AFCB a stonewalled as they come penalty but
he booked Pugh for diving just to rub salt in the wound - never
forgiven that one! I have however seen him have everything from
outstanding games, through mediocre games to absolutely dreadful
games. Consistency was his biggest lacking, imo, but something
he was improving on as time went on and he was turning into a
pretty solid referee. I agree he should not be fast tracked just
because he has been there before, however nor do I believe that
he should be held back because of or judged due to his past. If
his current performances merit good marks and progression then
good luck to him, if they don't then he should not progress. He
should be treated the same as everyone else, be afforded the
same chances as everyone else and judged purely on merit and not
what he did or didn't do previously.
#Post#: 30724--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bobby Madley
DIR By: Boz
Date: May 2, 2021, 10:32 am
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I've watched Mr R Madley do 2 Tranmere games this season. Seemed
to have put a bit of weight on, no significant errors in either
game, could have benefitted if goal-line technology available in
the first where a couple of balls down bounced off the bar and
hard to tell if crossed the line.
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