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       Re: Darren England
   DIR By: Whistleblower
       Date: May 1, 2021, 2:13 am
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       --- Quote from: JCFC link ---
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       > Have I missed something? I was under the impression that there
       were currently only nine out of a possible ten FIFA Referees
       from England, leaving Messrs England and Jones to compete for
       the one remaining spot.
       >
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       I make it nine too. Oliver, Taylor, Pawson, Attwell, Tierney,
       Kavanagh, A Madley, Coote, Bankes.   If he falls just within the
       age band I would expect Darren England to get a FIFA Badge from
       the beginning of 2022 and Rob Jones, who I believe is younger
       and I don't think has quite established himself in SG1 as well
       as England, to get  a FIFA badge after the next retiree whom I
       presume will be Taylor or Pawson.
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       Re: Darren England
   DIR By: ARF
       Date: May 1, 2021, 5:20 am
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       --- Quote from: Whistleblower link ---
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       > Of course having three forename initials does not
       automatically confer greatness. One thinks of A C F in
       particular. However, this is more than counter-balanced by  A W
       S,  D R G,  T H C,  L F G,   M J D and to bring us back to
       another thread N C H
       >
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       I think I know DRG (from my neck of the woods unless I'm much
       mistaken!) but I'm drawing a blank for the others!
       #Post#: 30645--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Darren England
   DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
       Date: May 1, 2021, 5:42 am
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       --- Quote from: ARF link ---
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       > [quote author=Whistleblower link=topic=2410.msg30614#msg30614
       date=1619786770]
       > Of course having three forename initials does not
       automatically confer greatness. One thinks of A C F in
       particular. However, this is more than counter-balanced by  A W
       S,  D R G,  T H C,  L F G,   M J D and to bring us back to
       another thread N C H
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I think I know DRG (from my neck of the woods unless I'm much
       mistaken!) but I'm drawing a blank for the others!
       [/quote]
       M J D Bodenham from Looe is one...
       #Post#: 30648--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Darren England
   DIR By: Leggy
       Date: May 1, 2021, 6:45 am
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       A W S Smith is another (with Alan Charles Fredrick Turvey being
       the obvious / infamous one).
       #Post#: 30649--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Darren England
   DIR By: JCFC
       Date: May 1, 2021, 6:48 am
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       I rather think Whistleblower was thinking of AWS Jones, from
       Ormskirk, rather than Leggy's Mr Smith.
       #Post#: 30650--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Darren England
   DIR By: Whistleblower
       Date: May 1, 2021, 6:51 am
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       I don't know about Smith, I was thinking of
       A W S Jones ( Ormskirk ). First rate referee
       #Post#: 30651--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Darren England
   DIR By: Whistleblower
       Date: May 1, 2021, 6:52 am
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       Beat me to it JCFC
       #Post#: 30652--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Darren England
   DIR By: JCFC
       Date: May 1, 2021, 6:59 am
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       In the more working-class environment of Rugby League, I can
       only recall DTH Davies of Pendlebury, who was the top dog in the
       early sixties, and much later HFT Mason of Halifax, who bdid not
       reach quite such heights. I remember a touch judge, JRT O'Connor
       from Huddersfield, and there may have been others, but they were
       a rarity.
       In the site's previous incarnation, we were, however, able to
       draw up a list of about a dozen Scottish league referees, from a
       much smaller pool than the Football League list.
       This discrepancy was reflected by my grandparents. The Yorkshire
       ones gave their two sons the one Christian name (Frank and
       James), while the Scottish ones - in no ways posh - christened
       their two daughters with the names Margaret Jane Wylie and Mary
       Ailsa Young.
       JCFC ended with the boring compromise of two - one of which I
       don't like too much ... and the other I absolutely loathe.
       #Post#: 30653--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Darren England
   DIR By: JCFC
       Date: May 1, 2021, 7:05 am
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       In the good old days, the newspapers used to print full results
       of Amateur Golf Championships. Though not a golfer, I always
       read these with interest and picked names to support. J.
       Ambridge (West Herts) had a certain appeal, as my family were
       regular listeners to The Archers. My favourite though, with the
       three initials, was JRW Walkinshaw (Haggs Castle.)
       Better known was RDBM Shade, whose initials were rendered by his
       colleagues as Right Down the Bloody Middle.
       #Post#: 30654--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Darren England
   DIR By: JCFC
       Date: May 1, 2021, 7:12 am
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       It is a shame that a certain Fat Lady, mentioned as an
       "accredited cricket umpire"(whatever that might mean) in
       Wikipedia, did not take up the whistle as well. A programme
       listing the referee as C T P A M J A E T L E Dickson Wright
       would surely have been quite a collector's item.
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