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       Re: Gordon Kew
   DIR By: John Treleven
       Date: May 3, 2021, 11:34 am
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       Sunday leisure and entertainment activities had long been
       constrained by successive Sunday Observance Acts which also
       prohibited the charging for admission to such events. One
       consequence of this was the introduction of "admission by
       programme" in order to circumvent the law. So if finding a
       programme for a Sunday fixture with a cover price considerably
       higher than expected for its time then this is the reason. It
       was also deemed in the religious areas of society unacceptable
       to partake in such activities on a Sunday, which was deemed a
       "day of rest". However amongst those that worked on Saturdays
       and supported their local teams later in the day Sundays became
       their day to play the game.
       The Football Association long upheld the traditional view and
       did not officially recognise Sunday football, other than to
       place restrictions on it. Those that played or officiated in
       Sunday football were not allowed to participate in matches on
       other days of the week. Therefore many players and officials
       used false names when participating on a Sunday.
       The F.A. gradually came around to reviewing the problems that
       this was causing , notably in the big cities where organised
       Sunday football was prevalent. In August 1939 it was proposed
       that they appoint a Sub-Committee to review the situation but
       war intervened and it was not until 24th September 1943 that the
       Committee members were actually appointed. One of these was
       Edward "Teddy" Eden, the F.A. Councillor for Birmingham, who was
       to spend the next 17 years persuading other F.A. Councillors to
       recognise Sunday football.
       The majority opinion of the reviewing Committee was to ease the
       restrictions and allow Sunday play under certain conditions.
       These recommendations were put forward in October 1945 but those
       who opposed Sunday football had not been idle and had gathered
       sufficient support to have the initial proposals watered down
       and to be re-considered at the end of the season.
       When re-considered in July 1946 these opponents won the day and
       so no changes were made, but resolutions continued to be made to
       the F.A. Council, without success, every year. The Council again
       shelved a decision in 1952 but Sunday football continued to grow
       and eventually in 1960 all restrictions were lifted. However the
       delay in reaching this decision had caused much bitterness
       amongst the players and officials of Sunday football.
       Immediately set up was an Inter Cities Bowl competition held
       between the best Sunday clubs of Birmingham and London organised
       by the Secretaries of the Birmingham Festival League and the
       London Sportsman's Intermediate League. This was mistakenly
       referred to in some areas as the National Sunday Cup but it was
       intending to expand invitations to the clubs of Leicester, Leeds
       and Manchester when the F.A. Sunday Cup was launched.
       The F.A. therefore needed to adopt, through its County
       Associations, a policy of slow assimilation, with the intent
       that the Sunday Leagues and Clubs would see the benefit of
       joining the F.A. fold, but there were still hard cores of
       resistance. Nevertheless the lifting of restrictions led to the
       spread of Sunday football to counties where it was previously
       unknown.
       In 1964, with Teddy Eden now Chairman of the Committee
       responsible, the F.A. introduced a national competition to
       further encourage the spread of Sunday football. Due to the
       varying conditions under which it was played in different parts
       of the country the initial rules were based upon those of the
       F.A. County Youth Cup established 20 years before. County F.A.'s
       could enter a representative side drawn from their various clubs
       or nominate one of their clubs to represent them.
       Sixteen counties entered with only London using a nominated club
       - Summerstown Athletic, near Wimbledon, and it was they that
       went on to win the inaugural competition. Teddy Eden, having
       seen the competition get successfully underway, died midway
       through the following season on 26th January 1966, aged 86, only
       two days after presiding at what was to be his final Sunday
       Football committee meeting.
       #Post#: 30896--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gordon Kew
   DIR By: Timbo
       Date: May 4, 2021, 1:11 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: John Treleven link ---
       >
       > Sunday leisure and entertainment activities had long been
       constrained by successive Sunday Observance Acts which also
       prohibited the charging for admission to such events. One
       consequence of this was the introduction of "admission by
       programme" in order to circumvent the law. So if finding a
       programme for a Sunday fixture with a cover price considerably
       higher than expected for its time then this is the reason. It
       was also deemed in the religious areas of society unacceptable
       to partake in such activities on a Sunday, which was deemed a
       "day of rest". However amongst those that worked on Saturdays
       and supported their local teams later in the day Sundays became
       their day to play the game.
       >
       > The Football Association long upheld the traditional view and
       did not officially recognise Sunday football, other than to
       place restrictions on it. Those that played or officiated in
       Sunday football were not allowed to participate in matches on
       other days of the week. Therefore many players and officials
       used false names when participating on a Sunday.
       >
       > The F.A. gradually came around to reviewing the problems that
       this was causing , notably in the big cities where organised
       Sunday football was prevalent. In August 1939 it was proposed
       that they appoint a Sub-Committee to review the situation but
       war intervened and it was not until 24th September 1943 that the
       Committee members were actually appointed. One of these was
       Edward "Teddy" Eden, the F.A. Councillor for Birmingham, who was
       to spend the next 17 years persuading other F.A. Councillors to
       recognise Sunday football.
       >
       > The majority opinion of the reviewing Committee was to ease
       the restrictions and allow Sunday play under certain conditions.
       These recommendations were put forward in October 1945 but those
       who opposed Sunday football had not been idle and had gathered
       sufficient support to have the initial proposals watered down
       and to be re-considered at the end of the season.
       >
       > When re-considered in July 1946 these opponents won the day
       and so no changes were made, but resolutions continued to be
       made to the F.A. Council, without success, every year. The
       Council again shelved a decision in 1952 but Sunday football
       continued to grow and eventually in 1960 all restrictions were
       lifted. However the delay in reaching this decision had caused
       much bitterness amongst the players and officials of Sunday
       football.
       >
       > Immediately set up was an Inter Cities Bowl competition held
       between the best Sunday clubs of Birmingham and London organised
       by the Secretaries of the Birmingham Festival League and the
       London Sportsman's Intermediate League. This was mistakenly
       referred to in some areas as the National Sunday Cup but it was
       intending to expand invitations to the clubs of Leicester, Leeds
       and Manchester when the F.A. Sunday Cup was launched.
       >
       > The F.A. therefore needed to adopt, through its County
       Associations, a policy of slow assimilation, with the intent
       that the Sunday Leagues and Clubs would see the benefit of
       joining the F.A. fold, but there were still hard cores of
       resistance. Nevertheless the lifting of restrictions led to the
       spread of Sunday football to counties where it was previously
       unknown.
       >
       > In 1964, with Teddy Eden now Chairman of the Committee
       responsible, the F.A. introduced a national competition to
       further encourage the spread of Sunday football. Due to the
       varying conditions under which it was played in different parts
       of the country the initial rules were based upon those of the
       F.A. County Youth Cup established 20 years before. County F.A.'s
       could enter a representative side drawn from their various clubs
       or nominate one of their clubs to represent them.
       >
       > Sixteen counties entered with only London using a nominated
       club - Summerstown Athletic, near Wimbledon, and it was they
       that went on to win the inaugural competition. Teddy Eden,
       having seen the competition get successfully underway, died
       midway through the following season on 26th January 1966, aged
       86, only two days after presiding at what was to be his final
       Sunday Football committee meeting.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Quite a few midweek afternoon leagues existed into the 1970s,
       such as the Manchester Wednesday League, the Liverpool Business
       Houses League and the Oxford Thursday League. The demise of
       half-day closing and factory closures caused by successive
       recessions generally saw such leagues fold.
       #Post#: 30897--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gordon Kew
   DIR By: Leggy
       Date: May 4, 2021, 1:23 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: Timbo link ---
       >
       > [quote author=John Treleven link=topic=2395.msg30818#msg30818
       date=1620059642]
       > Sunday leisure and entertainment activities had long been
       constrained by successive Sunday Observance Acts which also
       prohibited the charging for admission to such events. One
       consequence of this was the introduction of "admission by
       programme" in order to circumvent the law. So if finding a
       programme for a Sunday fixture with a cover price considerably
       higher than expected for its time then this is the reason. It
       was also deemed in the religious areas of society unacceptable
       to partake in such activities on a Sunday, which was deemed a
       "day of rest". However amongst those that worked on Saturdays
       and supported their local teams later in the day Sundays became
       their day to play the game.
       >
       > The Football Association long upheld the traditional view and
       did not officially recognise Sunday football, other than to
       place restrictions on it. Those that played or officiated in
       Sunday football were not allowed to participate in matches on
       other days of the week. Therefore many players and officials
       used false names when participating on a Sunday.
       >
       > The F.A. gradually came around to reviewing the problems that
       this was causing , notably in the big cities where organised
       Sunday football was prevalent. In August 1939 it was proposed
       that they appoint a Sub-Committee to review the situation but
       war intervened and it was not until 24th September 1943 that the
       Committee members were actually appointed. One of these was
       Edward "Teddy" Eden, the F.A. Councillor for Birmingham, who was
       to spend the next 17 years persuading other F.A. Councillors to
       recognise Sunday football.
       >
       > The majority opinion of the reviewing Committee was to ease
       the restrictions and allow Sunday play under certain conditions.
       These recommendations were put forward in October 1945 but those
       who opposed Sunday football had not been idle and had gathered
       sufficient support to have the initial proposals watered down
       and to be re-considered at the end of the season.
       >
       > When re-considered in July 1946 these opponents won the day
       and so no changes were made, but resolutions continued to be
       made to the F.A. Council, without success, every year. The
       Council again shelved a decision in 1952 but Sunday football
       continued to grow and eventually in 1960 all restrictions were
       lifted. However the delay in reaching this decision had caused
       much bitterness amongst the players and officials of Sunday
       football.
       >
       > Immediately set up was an Inter Cities Bowl competition held
       between the best Sunday clubs of Birmingham and London organised
       by the Secretaries of the Birmingham Festival League and the
       London Sportsman's Intermediate League. This was mistakenly
       referred to in some areas as the National Sunday Cup but it was
       intending to expand invitations to the clubs of Leicester, Leeds
       and Manchester when the F.A. Sunday Cup was launched.
       >
       > The F.A. therefore needed to adopt, through its County
       Associations, a policy of slow assimilation, with the intent
       that the Sunday Leagues and Clubs would see the benefit of
       joining the F.A. fold, but there were still hard cores of
       resistance. Nevertheless the lifting of restrictions led to the
       spread of Sunday football to counties where it was previously
       unknown.
       >
       > In 1964, with Teddy Eden now Chairman of the Committee
       responsible, the F.A. introduced a national competition to
       further encourage the spread of Sunday football. Due to the
       varying conditions under which it was played in different parts
       of the country the initial rules were based upon those of the
       F.A. County Youth Cup established 20 years before. County F.A.'s
       could enter a representative side drawn from their various clubs
       or nominate one of their clubs to represent them.
       >
       > Sixteen counties entered with only London using a nominated
       club - Summerstown Athletic, near Wimbledon, and it was they
       that went on to win the inaugural competition. Teddy Eden,
       having seen the competition get successfully underway, died
       midway through the following season on 26th January 1966, aged
       86, only two days after presiding at what was to be his final
       Sunday Football committee meeting.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Quite a few midweek afternoon leagues existed into the 1970s,
       such as the Manchester Wednesday League, the Liverpool Business
       Houses League and the Oxford Thursday League. The demise of
       half-day closing and factory closures caused by successive
       recessions generally saw such leagues fold.
       [/quote]
       There was a Thursday afternoon league in London as well (in the
       1980s when I started refereeing).  A number of fire brigade
       teams and police teams participated - as well as works sides.
       Plenty of "ringers" appeared as well.
       #Post#: 30927--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gordon Kew
   DIR By: John Treleven
       Date: May 4, 2021, 3:19 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       Jersey Caesarean League until 1977 on Thursday afternoons - half
       day closing
       #Post#: 30985--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gordon Kew
   DIR By: Whistleblower
       Date: May 5, 2021, 7:29 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: John Treleven link ---
       >
       > Jersey Caesarean League until 1977 on Thursday afternoons -
       half day closing
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       W
       hat a wonderful name for a League associated with an Island I
       know very well.
       #Post#: 31033--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gordon Kew
   DIR By: John Treleven
       Date: May 5, 2021, 5:10 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       Caesarea was believed to be the Roman name for Jersey, although
       modern research questions it (it is pronounced Seas are rear,
       not like the birthing term!)
       Guernsey - Sarnia, Alderney - Ridunia
       #Post#: 31073--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gordon Kew
   DIR By: Whistleblower
       Date: May 6, 2021, 1:07 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: John Treleven link ---
       >
       > Caesarea was believed to be the Roman name for Jersey,
       although modern research questions it (it is pronounced Seas are
       rear, not like the birthing term!)
       > Guernsey - Sarnia, Alderney - Ridunia
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       This forum is a mine of knowledge. The only Caesarea I had known
       previously was Caesarea Philippi but I guess many places were
       named in honour of the Emperor.
       #Post#: 31096--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gordon Kew
   DIR By: Timbo
       Date: May 7, 2021, 4:33 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: Leggy link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Timbo link=topic=2395.msg30896#msg30896
       date=1620151906]
       > [quote author=John Treleven link=topic=2395.msg30818#msg30818
       date=1620059642]
       > Sunday leisure and entertainment activities had long been
       constrained by successive Sunday Observance Acts which also
       prohibited the charging for admission to such events. One
       consequence of this was the introduction of "admission by
       programme" in order to circumvent the law. So if finding a
       programme for a Sunday fixture with a cover price considerably
       higher than expected for its time then this is the reason. It
       was also deemed in the religious areas of society unacceptable
       to partake in such activities on a Sunday, which was deemed a
       "day of rest". However amongst those that worked on Saturdays
       and supported their local teams later in the day Sundays became
       their day to play the game.
       >
       > The Football Association long upheld the traditional view and
       did not officially recognise Sunday football, other than to
       place restrictions on it. Those that played or officiated in
       Sunday football were not allowed to participate in matches on
       other days of the week. Therefore many players and officials
       used false names when participating on a Sunday.
       >
       > The F.A. gradually came around to reviewing the problems that
       this was causing , notably in the big cities where organised
       Sunday football was prevalent. In August 1939 it was proposed
       that they appoint a Sub-Committee to review the situation but
       war intervened and it was not until 24th September 1943 that the
       Committee members were actually appointed. One of these was
       Edward "Teddy" Eden, the F.A. Councillor for Birmingham, who was
       to spend the next 17 years persuading other F.A. Councillors to
       recognise Sunday football.
       >
       > The majority opinion of the reviewing Committee was to ease
       the restrictions and allow Sunday play under certain conditions.
       These recommendations were put forward in October 1945 but those
       who opposed Sunday football had not been idle and had gathered
       sufficient support to have the initial proposals watered down
       and to be re-considered at the end of the season.
       >
       > When re-considered in July 1946 these opponents won the day
       and so no changes were made, but resolutions continued to be
       made to the F.A. Council, without success, every year. The
       Council again shelved a decision in 1952 but Sunday football
       continued to grow and eventually in 1960 all restrictions were
       lifted. However the delay in reaching this decision had caused
       much bitterness amongst the players and officials of Sunday
       football.
       >
       > Immediately set up was an Inter Cities Bowl competition held
       between the best Sunday clubs of Birmingham and London organised
       by the Secretaries of the Birmingham Festival League and the
       London Sportsman's Intermediate League. This was mistakenly
       referred to in some areas as the National Sunday Cup but it was
       intending to expand invitations to the clubs of Leicester, Leeds
       and Manchester when the F.A. Sunday Cup was launched.
       >
       > The F.A. therefore needed to adopt, through its County
       Associations, a policy of slow assimilation, with the intent
       that the Sunday Leagues and Clubs would see the benefit of
       joining the F.A. fold, but there were still hard cores of
       resistance. Nevertheless the lifting of restrictions led to the
       spread of Sunday football to counties where it was previously
       unknown.
       >
       > In 1964, with Teddy Eden now Chairman of the Committee
       responsible, the F.A. introduced a national competition to
       further encourage the spread of Sunday football. Due to the
       varying conditions under which it was played in different parts
       of the country the initial rules were based upon those of the
       F.A. County Youth Cup established 20 years before. County F.A.'s
       could enter a representative side drawn from their various clubs
       or nominate one of their clubs to represent them.
       >
       > Sixteen counties entered with only London using a nominated
       club - Summerstown Athletic, near Wimbledon, and it was they
       that went on to win the inaugural competition. Teddy Eden,
       having seen the competition get successfully underway, died
       midway through the following season on 26th January 1966, aged
       86, only two days after presiding at what was to be his final
       Sunday Football committee meeting.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Quite a few midweek afternoon leagues existed into the 1970s,
       such as the Manchester Wednesday League, the Liverpool Business
       Houses League and the Oxford Thursday League. The demise of
       half-day closing and factory closures caused by successive
       recessions generally saw such leagues fold.
       [/quote]
       There was a Thursday afternoon league in London as well (in the
       1980s when I started refereeing).  A number of fire brigade
       teams and police teams participated - as well as works sides.
       Plenty of "ringers" appeared as well.
       [/quote]
       A bit of research suggests that the Oxford Thursday League
       ceased in 1969, which was one year after the Oxford Sunday
       League was formed. Some clubs seem to have moved from the former
       to the latter, the Post Office being an example.
       There is still a midweek afternoon league in Oxford, but that is
       an inter-college league in which students play.
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