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#Post#: 30192--------------------------------------------------
Re: Break away Super League
DIR By: REDSTRIPE
Date: April 21, 2021, 8:41 am
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--- Quote from: bmb link ---
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> [quote author=REDSTRIPE link=topic=2369.msg30187#msg30187
date=1619005352]
> I still won't be renewing my Arsenal supporters club
membership.
> Been gradually falling out of love with football.........VAR
hasn't helped!!!
>
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I understand. I reached that point the more successful AFCB
became, you'd think years of bailiffs and being in L1 & 2
dreaming of a better future for your club would lead to loving
it actually happen. Instead I watched my club become less and
less of being my club and more and more of a corporate money
machine and I hated it. It was my love for the sheer simplicity
and randomness of the NBI that restored my love of football. I
went from just watching Kassai's games or the highlights of his
games 10/12 years ago to the current place of watching every
single game every week. I've not missed a single NBI game in 5
years. Even when I have been out in Hungary for games I catch up
on all the other games I might miss live either on the TV
channel as they get repeated during the week or on the sports
channel website where videos of the games remain available for
3/4 months. The PL can keep it's millionaires I'll be sticking
to my imperfect league with it's tactically questionable players
and several moments of comedy gold - normally down to the
defenders (and I use the term loosely) who play for my team! I
hope you find something, a non league team or obscure league
somewhere, that restores your love & passion for the game.
[/quote]Doesn't help that I support Bristol Rovers too lol
#Post#: 30193--------------------------------------------------
Re: Break away Super League
DIR By: Ashington46
Date: April 21, 2021, 8:45 am
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--- Quote from: bmb link ---
>
> [quote author=REDSTRIPE link=topic=2369.msg30187#msg30187
date=1619005352]
> I still won't be renewing my Arsenal supporters club
membership.
> Been gradually falling out of love with football.........VAR
hasn't helped!!!
>
--- End Quote ---
I understand. I reached that point the more successful AFCB
became, you'd think years of bailiffs and being in L1 & 2
dreaming of a better future for your club would lead to loving
it actually happen. Instead I watched my club become less and
less of being my club and more and more of a corporate money
machine and I hated it. It was my love for the sheer simplicity
and randomness of the NBI that restored my love of football. I
went from just watching Kassai's games or the highlights of his
games 10/12 years ago to the current place of watching every
single game every week. I've not missed a single NBI game in 5
years. Even when I have been out in Hungary for games I catch up
on all the other games I might miss live either on the TV
channel as they get repeated during the week or on the sports
channel website where videos of the games remain available for
3/4 months. The PL can keep it's millionaires I'll be sticking
to my imperfect league with it's tactically questionable players
and several moments of comedy gold - normally down to the
defenders (and I use the term loosely) who play for my team! I
hope you find something, a non league team or obscure league
somewhere, that restores your love & passion for the game.
[/quote]
bmb --I sincerely jope that VAR doesn't spoil your enjoyment of
your league!
I am happy to report that I still maintain a Season Ticket at
Ashington in the Northern League, as well as my Burnley one. In
fact Ashington have told fans that they can use their 2020/21
season ticket for the coming season because of the current
season having been scrapped. Great gesture because they are not
rolling in cash, in fact, many fans have decided to pay for next
season anyway so that the club can benefit.
Proper football without the greed and with officials being
allowed to get on with their jobs without any outside
interference!
#Post#: 30194--------------------------------------------------
Re: Break away Super League
DIR By: Failed Ref
Date: April 21, 2021, 8:48 am
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It is amazing how something like this galvanised people and then
how politicians jumped on the bandwagon of popularism. Within
months we will get reform of football driven by Government
ceding to the masses and finally doing something. Good. Very
good.
In the last 6 months I have lost my parents to Covid19 and my
mother in law too. I have witnessed first hand the awful care
system in this country and the inability of the NHS to deal with
the elderly in a dignified manner. Our care system needs
billions invested and we need an explanation why thousands of
elderly people died unnecessarily early, alone, frightened and
unaware of how much they were loved. Will something get done?
No. Will independent care commissioner be appointed. No. Several
independent reports have stressed the inadequate funding of our
social care system yet nothing gets done. There is no Rashford
or Neville to campaign for this group yet as soon as they speak
the Government do something. It wins votes. In all this fiasco
we need to get our priorities right. No-one died.
#Post#: 30195--------------------------------------------------
Re: Break away Super League
DIR By: ajb95
Date: April 21, 2021, 9:40 am
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--- Quote from: Failed Ref link ---
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> It is amazing how something like this galvanised people and
then how politicians jumped on the bandwagon of popularism.
Within months we will get reform of football driven by
Government ceding to the masses and finally doing something.
Good. Very good.
> In the last 6 months I have lost my parents to Covid19 and my
mother in law too. I have witnessed first hand the awful care
system in this country and the inability of the NHS to deal with
the elderly in a dignified manner. Our care system needs
billions invested and we need an explanation why thousands of
elderly people died unnecessarily early, alone, frightened and
unaware of how much they were loved. Will something get done?
No. Will independent care commissioner be appointed. No. Several
independent reports have stressed the inadequate funding of our
social care system yet nothing gets done. There is no Rashford
or Neville to campaign for this group yet as soon as they speak
the Government do something. It wins votes. In all this fiasco
we need to get our priorities right. No-one died.
>
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Brilliantly put failed ref, and I am sorry for your loss like
many across the country and the world.
Interestingly, some media commentator making the excellent point
that Boris and his cronies managed to make room in their diaries
to sort out this ESL mess but have had no room in the last 6-8
months to meet bereaved families of those lost to COVID.
You are spot on about priorities!
#Post#: 30196--------------------------------------------------
Re: Break away Super League
DIR By: bmb
Date: April 21, 2021, 10:08 am
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Sorry for your loss Failed ref.
You are so right about priorities and I have been reading a lot
of tweets saying very similar. Where is the similar outrage at
poverty, the police and NHS being systematically decimated to
where they can no longer provide more than the bare minimum, the
state of education due to cuts and the wrong priorities of
successive education ministers who manage to paint teachers as
lazy militants, the treatment of disabled and mentally ill
people, discrimination being so prevalent, the list is endless
and that's before you even start on the whole covid issues.
Maybe it can have a knock on effect, the "little people" have
seen by standing together they can enforce change so maybe just
maybe they will stand together on other issues as well, who
knows. I think people have felt so hopeless for so long that
they have lost the will to fight, I'd love for this to spark a
motivation in everyone to stand up more often instead of just
wearily accepting our lot in life. Reality is it probably won't
but...
#Post#: 30197--------------------------------------------------
Re: Break away Super League
DIR By: bmb
Date: April 21, 2021, 10:17 am
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--- Quote from: REDSTRIPE link ---
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> Doesn't help that I support Bristol Rovers too lol
>
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Can I tempt you with an NBI game!
HTML https://mediaklikk.hu/m4-elo/
*Free to watch and the link is
100% legal - it's the TV channel online link*
DVTK v Felcsút starts in 10 mins and we still have Paks v Honvéd
& Mezokovesd v Vidi to come today yet ;)
#Post#: 30217--------------------------------------------------
Re: Break away Super League
DIR By: REDSTRIPE
Date: April 21, 2021, 3:56 pm
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--- Quote from: bmb link ---
>
> [quote author=REDSTRIPE link=topic=2369.msg30192#msg30192
date=1619012467]
> Doesn't help that I support Bristol Rovers too lol
>
--- End Quote ---
Can I tempt you with an NBI game!
HTML https://mediaklikk.hu/m4-elo/
*Free to watch and the link is
100% legal - it's the TV channel online link*
DVTK v Felcsút starts in 10 mins and we still have Paks v Honvéd
& Mezokovesd v Vidi to come today yet ;)
[/quote]I'm enjoying the snooker too much lol
#Post#: 31193--------------------------------------------------
Re: Break away Super League
DIR By: bmb
Date: May 8, 2021, 4:14 pm
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I see the sanctions have now been announced against the 9 clubs
who withdrew from the SL idea.
Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United, Chelsea, Arsenal,
Tottenham, AC Milan, Inter Milan, and Atlético Madrid have all
signed a commitment to recommit to UEFA and will be allowed to
qualify for next season's tournaments. They are committed to
contributing a 15 million Euro fund to benefit youth and
grassroots football across Europe. According to the article in
the guardian some club owners, including those at Tottenham,
Manchester United and Arsenal, are reported to have agreed to
pick up the tab for the fines themselves.
Starting in 2023-24, the nine clubs will be subject to the
withholding of 5% of the revenues they are due to receive for
their participation in UEFA club competitions for one season,
which will all be reinvested into youth and grassroots football
in local communities across Europe, including the UK.
Finally, as a way to deter consideration of joining breakaway
competitions in the future, the clubs have all agreed to have
fines imposed if they seek to play in an unauthorized
competition (€100 million) or if they breach any other
commitment they have entered into in the Club Commitment
Declaration (€50 million).
Sanctions against the hold out 3 Barcelona, Real Madrid, and
Juventus yet to be announced.
#Post#: 31197--------------------------------------------------
Re: Break away Super League
DIR By: ajb95
Date: May 8, 2021, 4:37 pm
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--- Quote from: bmb link ---
>
> I see the sanctions have now been announced against the 9
clubs who withdrew from the SL idea.
>
> Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United, Chelsea,
Arsenal, Tottenham, AC Milan, Inter Milan, and Atlético Madrid
have all signed a commitment to recommit to UEFA and will be
allowed to qualify for next season's tournaments. They are
committed to contributing a 15 million Euro fund to benefit
youth and grassroots football across Europe. According to the
article in the guardian some club owners, including those at
Tottenham, Manchester United and Arsenal, are reported to have
agreed to pick up the tab for the fines themselves.
>
> Starting in 2023-24, the nine clubs will be subject to the
withholding of 5% of the revenues they are due to receive for
their participation in UEFA club competitions for one season,
which will all be reinvested into youth and grassroots football
in local communities across Europe, including the UK.
>
> Finally, as a way to deter consideration of joining breakaway
competitions in the future, the clubs have all agreed to have
fines imposed if they seek to play in an unauthorized
competition (€100 million) or if they breach any other
commitment they have entered into in the Club Commitment
Declaration (€50 million).
>
> Sanctions against the hold out 3 Barcelona, Real Madrid, and
Juventus yet to be announced.
>
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Brushed under the carpet. Not got the bottle to punish them!
#Post#: 31198--------------------------------------------------
Re: Break away Super League
DIR By: rustyref
Date: May 8, 2021, 4:49 pm
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--- Quote from: ajb95 link ---
>
> [quote author=bmb link=topic=2369.msg31193#msg31193
date=1620508481]
> I see the sanctions have now been announced against the 9
clubs who withdrew from the SL idea.
>
> Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United, Chelsea,
Arsenal, Tottenham, AC Milan, Inter Milan, and Atlético Madrid
have all signed a commitment to recommit to UEFA and will be
allowed to qualify for next season's tournaments. They are
committed to contributing a 15 million Euro fund to benefit
youth and grassroots football across Europe. According to the
article in the guardian some club owners, including those at
Tottenham, Manchester United and Arsenal, are reported to have
agreed to pick up the tab for the fines themselves.
>
> Starting in 2023-24, the nine clubs will be subject to the
withholding of 5% of the revenues they are due to receive for
their participation in UEFA club competitions for one season,
which will all be reinvested into youth and grassroots football
in local communities across Europe, including the UK.
>
> Finally, as a way to deter consideration of joining breakaway
competitions in the future, the clubs have all agreed to have
fines imposed if they seek to play in an unauthorized
competition (€100 million) or if they breach any other
commitment they have entered into in the Club Commitment
Declaration (€50 million).
>
> Sanctions against the hold out 3 Barcelona, Real Madrid, and
Juventus yet to be announced.
>
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Brushed under the carpet. Not got the bottle to punish them!
[/quote]
That isn't strictly true. They have been fined €15 million, and
will have 5% of their UEFA competition revenues withheld for one
season. The money will be distributed to children's and
grassroots football across Europe.
What happens to the three clubs that haven't backed down, and
today issued a statement saying they won't abandon the ESL, is
anyone's guess. I suspect if they don't back down they will be
kicked out of European competition.
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