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#Post#: 37180--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup - Qualifying Round
DIR By: Tweed
Date: September 7, 2021, 5:00 pm
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I thought the penalty was stonewall, he was holding and pulling
him for ages. I think he was lucky for a second time not to see
a red card. I think he correctly turned down the penalty claim
for O'Donnell's alleged handball as he was fouled right before
it. He was correct in law not to give the penalty for Hanley's
push as ball not in play. Thought some of the fouls were a bit
strange both ways, none more so than the handball one he gave
Austria at the end. And you are quite correct the tackle on
McGregor should have been a straight red. Whilst I agree with
the penalty decision I didn't think he was up to much and
certainly not as good as the two referees we had last week.
From a Motherwell perspective, proud as punch with Stephen
O'Donnell again!
#Post#: 37191--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup - Qualifying Round
DIR By: DBLTFC
Date: September 8, 2021, 2:03 pm
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Surprised Siebert got Poland v England after his performance in
the Wales v Denmark game.
#Post#: 37192--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup - Qualifying Round
DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
Date: September 8, 2021, 2:10 pm
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--- Quote from: DBLTFC link ---
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> Surprised Siebert got Poland v England after his performance
in the Wales v Denmark game.
>
--- End Quote ---
And he’s been less than satisfactory thus far…..
#Post#: 37193--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup - Qualifying Round
DIR By: magpie1892
Date: September 8, 2021, 2:26 pm
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Blast from the 90's with 3 former PL referees as assessors in
Steven Lodge, Mike Riley & Neale Barry
Any ideas why Andy Madley is doing AVAR rather than a specialist
AR?
#Post#: 37199--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup - Qualifying Round
DIR By: ajb95
Date: September 8, 2021, 3:38 pm
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--- Quote from: TheThingFromLewes link ---
>
> [quote author=DBLTFC link=topic=2265.msg37191#msg37191
date=1631127830]
> Surprised Siebert got Poland v England after his performance
in the Wales v Denmark game.
>
--- End Quote ---
And he’s been less than satisfactory thus far…..
[/quote]
Another awful performance. Looked like a rabbit in headlights
with the mass con. Does not convince at all. And this is
supposed to be the future of German refereeing!
#Post#: 37217--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup - Qualifying Round
DIR By: guest3
Date: September 9, 2021, 6:23 am
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--- Quote from: tomp link ---
>
> Wednesday 8th September 2021
>
> Group B
> 20:45 CET - Athens (Olympic Athletic Center "Spyros Louis")
> GREECE - SWEDEN
> Referee: Sergei Karasev (RUS)
> Assistant Referee 1: Igor Demeshko (RUS)
> Assistant Referee 2: Maksim Gavrilin (RUS)
> Fourth Official: Kirill Levnikov (RUS)
> Video Assistant Referee: Vitaliy Meshkov (RUS)
> Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Sergei Ivanov (RUS)
> FIFA Referee Assessor: Konrad Plautz (AUT)
> FIFA Match Commissioner: Armen Minasyan (ARM)
>
--- End Quote ---
Good performance by Karasev yesterday. He was very lenient in
foul detection with a few mistakes on the 2nd half. Disciplinay
control was very good and all cautions spot-on.
He had to deal with 2 interesting situations:
12' Karasev whistles a penalty for Greece but AR2 flags for
offside. VAR confirms the offside.
74' Greece scores the 2-0. AR1 flags for offside. VAR confirms
the goal.
The only negative is the big delay by VAR (Meshkov) on the 2-0
by Greece. Meshkov was checking the offside call for about 5'
before finally changing the decision to goal.
Definitely UEFA won't be satisfied with that.
#Post#: 37225--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup - Qualifying Round
DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
Date: September 9, 2021, 11:20 am
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--- Quote from: edy link ---
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> [quote author=tomp link=topic=2265.msg37098#msg37098
date=1630916584]
> Wednesday 8th September 2021
>
> Group B
> 20:45 CET - Athens (Olympic Athletic Center "Spyros Louis")
> GREECE - SWEDEN
> Referee: Sergei Karasev (RUS)
> Assistant Referee 1: Igor Demeshko (RUS)
> Assistant Referee 2: Maksim Gavrilin (RUS)
> Fourth Official: Kirill Levnikov (RUS)
> Video Assistant Referee: Vitaliy Meshkov (RUS)
> Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Sergei Ivanov (RUS)
> FIFA Referee Assessor: Konrad Plautz (AUT)
> FIFA Match Commissioner: Armen Minasyan (ARM)
>
--- End Quote ---
Good performance by Karasev yesterday. He was very lenient in
foul detection with a few mistakes on the 2nd half. Disciplinay
control was very good and all cautions spot-on.
He had to deal with 2 interesting situations:
12' Karasev whistles a penalty for Greece but AR2 flags for
offside. VAR confirms the offside.
74' Greece scores the 2-0. AR1 flags for offside. VAR confirms
the goal.
The only negative is the big delay by VAR (Meshkov) on the 2-0
by Greece. Meshkov was checking the offside call for about 5'
before finally changing the decision to goal.
Definitely UEFA won't be satisfied with that.
[/quote]
Does the observer report on the VAR officials as well as the on
field officials?
Given that it is Plautz and if they do, it definitely isn’t good
news for Meshkov.
#Post#: 37239--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup - Qualifying Round
DIR By: RCG
Date: September 9, 2021, 3:28 pm
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I see Conmebol have a VAR observer - maybe we see that too (esp
if VAR is remote)
#Post#: 37245--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup - Qualifying Round
DIR By: Leggy
Date: September 10, 2021, 12:47 am
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--- Quote from: RCG link ---
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> I see Conmebol have a VAR observer - maybe we see that too
(esp if VAR is remote)
>
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Oh goody - more jobs for the boys!
The more match officials, observers and assessors that are
appointed to the top games sucks the refereeing resources away
from the grass roots of the game. It also lowers the standard
at the top and devalues the achievements of those reaching the
very top versus those reaching the same status in years gone by.
#Post#: 37268--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup - Qualifying Round
DIR By: guest3
Date: September 11, 2021, 2:40 am
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--- Quote from: TheThingFromLewes link ---
>
> [quote author=edy link=topic=2265.msg37217#msg37217
date=1631186610]
> [quote author=tomp link=topic=2265.msg37098#msg37098
date=1630916584]
> Wednesday 8th September 2021
>
> Group B
> 20:45 CET - Athens (Olympic Athletic Center "Spyros Louis")
> GREECE - SWEDEN
> Referee: Sergei Karasev (RUS)
> Assistant Referee 1: Igor Demeshko (RUS)
> Assistant Referee 2: Maksim Gavrilin (RUS)
> Fourth Official: Kirill Levnikov (RUS)
> Video Assistant Referee: Vitaliy Meshkov (RUS)
> Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Sergei Ivanov (RUS)
> FIFA Referee Assessor: Konrad Plautz (AUT)
> FIFA Match Commissioner: Armen Minasyan (ARM)
>
--- End Quote ---
Good performance by Karasev yesterday. He was very lenient in
foul detection with a few mistakes on the 2nd half. Disciplinay
control was very good and all cautions spot-on.
He had to deal with 2 interesting situations:
12' Karasev whistles a penalty for Greece but AR2 flags for
offside. VAR confirms the offside.
74' Greece scores the 2-0. AR1 flags for offside. VAR confirms
the goal.
The only negative is the big delay by VAR (Meshkov) on the 2-0
by Greece. Meshkov was checking the offside call for about 5'
before finally changing the decision to goal.
Definitely UEFA won't be satisfied with that.
[/quote]
Does the observer report on the VAR officials as well as the on
field officials?
Given that it is Plautz and if they do, it definitely isn’t good
news for Meshkov.
[/quote]
I am told that he does report on the VAR officials. Not sure if
he gives them a mark but there is a section on the UEFA report
for VAR officials.
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