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       #Post#: 28198--------------------------------------------------
       Kevin Friend, Liverpool v Fulham
   DIR By: Craven
       Date: March 8, 2021, 11:09 am
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       There wasn't too much of note from a refereeing perspective in
       this game, no controversial incidents or VAR interventions, but
       just wanted to give Kevin some praise for his overall
       performance.  I was impressed with his foul detection, and more
       so, his ability not to fall for any theatrics.  He let the game
       flow, stayed out of the limelight, and contributed to an
       entertaining game.  Sometimes, as a supporter of a so called
       lesser club, you fear getting the wrong end of any 50-50
       decisions at the bigger clubs, but there was no evidence of that
       at all from Kevin, especially towards the end when Liverpool
       were chasing the game and appealing for everything.  A really
       strong, solid performance.
       #Post#: 28203--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Kevin Friend, Liverpool v Fulham
   DIR By: DublinRef
       Date: March 8, 2021, 11:13 am
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       --- Quote from: Craven link ---
       >
       > There wasn't too much of note from a refereeing perspective in
       this game, no controversial incidents or VAR interventions, but
       just wanted to give Kevin some praise for his overall
       performance.  I was impressed with his foul detection, and more
       so, his ability not to fall for any theatrics.  He let the game
       flow, stayed out of the limelight, and contributed to an
       entertaining game.  Sometimes, as a supporter of a so called
       lesser club, you fear getting the wrong end of any 50-50
       decisions at the bigger clubs, but there was no evidence of that
       at all from Kevin, especially towards the end when Liverpool
       were chasing the game and appealing for everything.  A really
       strong, solid performance.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Agreed, I think he's been good this season on the whole.
       #Post#: 28215--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Kevin Friend, Liverpool v Fulham
   DIR By: Beryl
       Date: March 8, 2021, 12:33 pm
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       --- Quote from: DublinRef link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Craven link=topic=2240.msg28198#msg28198
       date=1615223352]
       > There wasn't too much of note from a refereeing perspective in
       this game, no controversial incidents or VAR interventions, but
       just wanted to give Kevin some praise for his overall
       performance.  I was impressed with his foul detection, and more
       so, his ability not to fall for any theatrics.  He let the game
       flow, stayed out of the limelight, and contributed to an
       entertaining game.  Sometimes, as a supporter of a so called
       lesser club, you fear getting the wrong end of any 50-50
       decisions at the bigger clubs, but there was no evidence of that
       at all from Kevin, especially towards the end when Liverpool
       were chasing the game and appealing for everything.  A really
       strong, solid performance.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Agreed, I think he's been good this season on the whole.
       [/quote]
       Not worth its own post but Taylor was good yesterday also,
       might have looked easy but excellent positioning early on to
       award the penalty.
       #Post#: 28216--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Kevin Friend, Liverpool v Fulham
   DIR By: Leggy
       Date: March 8, 2021, 12:43 pm
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       --- Quote from: Beryl link ---
       >
       > [quote author=DublinRef link=topic=2240.msg28203#msg28203
       date=1615223580]
       > [quote author=Craven link=topic=2240.msg28198#msg28198
       date=1615223352]
       > There wasn't too much of note from a refereeing perspective in
       this game, no controversial incidents or VAR interventions, but
       just wanted to give Kevin some praise for his overall
       performance.  I was impressed with his foul detection, and more
       so, his ability not to fall for any theatrics.  He let the game
       flow, stayed out of the limelight, and contributed to an
       entertaining game.  Sometimes, as a supporter of a so called
       lesser club, you fear getting the wrong end of any 50-50
       decisions at the bigger clubs, but there was no evidence of that
       at all from Kevin, especially towards the end when Liverpool
       were chasing the game and appealing for everything.  A really
       strong, solid performance.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Agreed, I think he's been good this season on the whole.
       [/quote]
       Not worth its own post but Taylor was good yesterday also,
       might have looked easy but excellent positioning early on to
       award the penalty.
       [/quote]
       I think that to be "switched on" and ready to make a big game
       decision in a big game after less than a minute is to Taylor's
       credit.  I know he is one of our top referees and you could
       argue that is what is expected of him, but how many times have
       we excused refereeing failings due to it being "so early in the
       game".  Taylor was ready, well positioned, made the right call
       (with negligible dissent) and should receive due praise for
       that.
       #Post#: 28274--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Kevin Friend, Liverpool v Fulham
   DIR By: Hendo
       Date: March 9, 2021, 1:19 pm
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       --- Quote from: Leggy link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Beryl link=topic=2240.msg28215#msg28215
       date=1615228421]
       > [quote author=DublinRef link=topic=2240.msg28203#msg28203
       date=1615223580]
       > [quote author=Craven link=topic=2240.msg28198#msg28198
       date=1615223352]
       > There wasn't too much of note from a refereeing perspective in
       this game, no controversial incidents or VAR interventions, but
       just wanted to give Kevin some praise for his overall
       performance.  I was impressed with his foul detection, and more
       so, his ability not to fall for any theatrics.  He let the game
       flow, stayed out of the limelight, and contributed to an
       entertaining game.  Sometimes, as a supporter of a so called
       lesser club, you fear getting the wrong end of any 50-50
       decisions at the bigger clubs, but there was no evidence of that
       at all from Kevin, especially towards the end when Liverpool
       were chasing the game and appealing for everything.  A really
       strong, solid performance.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Agreed, I think he's been good this season on the whole.
       [/quote]
       Not worth its own post but Taylor was good yesterday also,
       might have looked easy but excellent positioning early on to
       award the penalty.
       [/quote]
       I think that to be "switched on" and ready to make a big game
       decision in a big game after less than a minute is to Taylor's
       credit.  I know he is one of our top referees and you could
       argue that is what is expected of him, but how many times have
       we excused refereeing failings due to it being "so early in the
       game".  Taylor was ready, well positioned, made the right call
       (with negligible dissent) and should receive due praise for
       that.
       [/quote]
       Can anyone explain why Fred’s clumsy challenge on Sterling was
       ignored? Utd’s pen was the right call but he didn’t even take a
       look at City’s
       #Post#: 28277--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Kevin Friend, Liverpool v Fulham
   DIR By: PhiltheRef
       Date: March 9, 2021, 2:43 pm
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       It will have been viewed at Stockley Park and, obviously,
       deemed not worthy of intervention
       #Post#: 28279--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Kevin Friend, Liverpool v Fulham
   DIR By: Boz
       Date: March 9, 2021, 4:11 pm
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       --- Quote from: PhiltheRef link ---
       >
       > It will have been viewed at Stockley Park and, obviously,
       deemed not worthy of intervention
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Why 'obviously'? There was contact and it didn't seem one where
       Sterling made a meal of it as sometimes happens.
       #Post#: 28283--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Kevin Friend, Liverpool v Fulham
   DIR By: Ref Fan
       Date: March 10, 2021, 2:24 am
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       --- Quote from: Hendo link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Leggy link=topic=2240.msg28216#msg28216
       date=1615228990]
       > [quote author=Beryl link=topic=2240.msg28215#msg28215
       date=1615228421]
       > [quote author=DublinRef link=topic=2240.msg28203#msg28203
       date=1615223580]
       > [quote author=Craven link=topic=2240.msg28198#msg28198
       date=1615223352]
       > There wasn't too much of note from a refereeing perspective in
       this game, no controversial incidents or VAR interventions, but
       just wanted to give Kevin some praise for his overall
       performance.  I was impressed with his foul detection, and more
       so, his ability not to fall for any theatrics.  He let the game
       flow, stayed out of the limelight, and contributed to an
       entertaining game.  Sometimes, as a supporter of a so called
       lesser club, you fear getting the wrong end of any 50-50
       decisions at the bigger clubs, but there was no evidence of that
       at all from Kevin, especially towards the end when Liverpool
       were chasing the game and appealing for everything.  A really
       strong, solid performance.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Agreed, I think he's been good this season on the whole.
       [/quote]
       Not worth its own post but Taylor was good yesterday also,
       might have looked easy but excellent positioning early on to
       award the penalty.
       [/quote]
       I think that to be "switched on" and ready to make a big game
       decision in a big game after less than a minute is to Taylor's
       credit.  I know he is one of our top referees and you could
       argue that is what is expected of him, but how many times have
       we excused refereeing failings due to it being "so early in the
       game".  Taylor was ready, well positioned, made the right call
       (with negligible dissent) and should receive due praise for
       that.
       [/quote]
       Can anyone explain why Fred’s clumsy challenge on Sterling was
       ignored? Utd’s pen was the right call but he didn’t even take a
       look at City’s
       [/quote]
       Fred's challenges are invariably 'clumsy'.  Whenever I see him
       going into a tackle, I think foul or penalty coming up. :o  He
       tests the nerves of a United fan relentlessly!
       It didn't strike me at the time this was one of his more obvious
       ones and although Anthony Taylor managed the game very well, I
       was surprised there weren't one or two  more fouls given (both
       teams) when there was no sign advantage was being played.  Full
       marks for that early penalty decision though.
       #Post#: 28292--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Kevin Friend, Liverpool v Fulham
   DIR By: Ref Watcher
       Date: March 10, 2021, 6:08 am
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       --- Quote from: Boz link ---
       >
       > [quote author=PhiltheRef link=topic=2240.msg28277#msg28277
       date=1615322594]
       > It will have been viewed at Stockley Park and, obviously,
       deemed not worthy of intervention
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Why 'obviously'? There was contact and it didn't seem one where
       Sterling made a meal of it as sometimes happens.
       [/quote]
       They didn't intervene so, obviously, they deemed it not worthy
       of intervention.  Obviously.
       #Post#: 28300--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Kevin Friend, Liverpool v Fulham
   DIR By: Microscopist
       Date: March 10, 2021, 9:50 am
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       Preface to my comments:
       1) We would probably have missed the penalty;
       2) It shouldn't have caused us to lose the game;
       3) United had the better game plan;
       4) In my view Taylor is the most improved referee over the last
       few years and generally I would have said his performance was
       OK.
       OK, within that context, the two penalty claims;
       First; tangle of legs, could have been either player
       responsible, but Jesus should never have been close enough to
       make a decision necessary with two defenders covering - so can't
       complain.  Also note that almost any City player in Martial's
       position would have come back out of the penalty area.
       City's penalty claim Fred moves across Sterling's path, so far
       as I can tell the ball passes between his legs without contact,
       and he blocks off Sterling.
       Continuing to repeat myself I have no idea what is and isn't a
       foul.  It is in practice defined by each individual refereeing
       decision and bears no resemblance to any common definition in
       the LOTG or to any previous decisions be it in the same match,
       by the same referee or in any other game.
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