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#Post#: 28143--------------------------------------------------
Re: Gavin Ward - Swansea v Middlesbrough
DIR By: Guidedog
Date: March 7, 2021, 2:00 pm
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I’ve said it before, but after his performance at Wembley he
shouldn’t be near SG2. Only blessing is that we don’t have to
suffer him now.
It’s not just cream that rises to the top
#Post#: 28146--------------------------------------------------
Re: Gavin Ward - Swansea v Middlesbrough
DIR By: bmb
Date: March 7, 2021, 2:18 pm
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--- Quote from: Beryl link ---
>
>
> I have only seen still pics yet even in them you see a
snarling aggressive man,
>
>
--- End Quote ---
Whilst I agree with what the majority feeling seems to be that
whilst Gavin was an excellent AR, he is the complete opposite as
a referee and I am certainly not going to attempt to defend his
refereeing at all.
However I will most certainly defend his character as a person.
I've known Gavin for probably coming up 20 years, no more than
acquaintance level, we don't keep in touch but do have mutual
friends who (in pre-covid days at least) I would see
occasionally & if they'd seen him they might say something like
saw Gav the other day, he sends his best/he asked after you & jr
etc. It's a cordial acquaintanceship on a personal level. He
used to come to AFCB a lot in the L2&L1 days, both as an AR & as
a ref & on every single visit he would trot over to the family
stand to say hello to Jr while they were out warming up. Right
from the still in nappies and babbling age, through countless
dinosaur tales as a toddler (jr not Gavin) and the yeah but
playing an advantage is not logical phase which lasted from
about age 6-12. They'd chat again post match dinosaurs,
football, school, advantages not being logical for as long as Jr
wanted to. He's a thoroughly decent guy, calm, patient gentle.
Jr has ADHD & Aspergers, when very young, 5 mins with him was
absolutely exhausting, he literally bounced constantly, he was
really hard work and Gavin had an amazing level of patience with
him. Decent sense of humour as well, he really would laugh, a
genuine belly laugh, when Jr piped up with Mummy called you ^&%$
today, Mummy said you're not very good etc. Even knowing I
didn't rate him as a referee he never wavered from showing
warmth and patience to an inquisitive little boy who always had
100 questions for him.
Say what you like about his refereeing ability, or lack thereof,
but do not try and paint him as a snarling aggressive man. He is
far from it.
Edited to add - Beryl wasn't talking about Gavin but was talking
about Warnock. I misread it! My error & an apology to Beryl for
taking it wrongly.
I shall leave my bit about what a decent guy Gavin is - it might
remind all of us that our referees are human beings and often
far different off the pitch to how they appear on it. (Mainly
because it took me most of the 2nd half of Budafok v Vidi to
type out!! ;)
#Post#: 28147--------------------------------------------------
Re: Gavin Ward - Swansea v Middlesbrough
DIR By: carrowman
Date: March 7, 2021, 2:22 pm
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--- Quote from: bmb link ---
>
> [quote author=Beryl link=topic=2238.msg28133#msg28133
date=1615138097]
>
> I have only seen still pics yet even in them you see a
snarling aggressive man,
>
>
--- End Quote ---
Whilst I agree with what the majority feeling seems to be that
whilst Gavin was an excellent AR, he is the complete opposite as
a referee and I am certainly not going to attempt to defend his
refereeing at all.
However I will most certainly defend his character as a person.
I've known Gavin for probably coming up 20 years, no more than
acquaintance level, we don't keep in touch but do have mutual
friends who (in pre-covid days at least) I would see
occasionally & if they'd seen him they might say something like
saw Gav the other day, he sends his best/he asked after you & jr
etc. It's a cordial acquaintanceship on a personal level. He
used to come to AFCB a lot in the L2&L1 days, both as an AR & as
a ref & on every single visit he would trot over to the family
stand to say hello to Jr while they were out warming up. Right
from the still in nappies and babbling age, through countless
dinosaur tales as a toddler (jr not Gavin) and the yeah but
playing an advantage is not logical phase which lasted from
about age 6-12. They'd chat again post match dinosaurs,
football, school, advantages not being logical for as long as Jr
wanted to. He's a thoroughly decent guy, calm, patient gentle.
Jr has ADHD & Aspergers, when very young, 5 mins with him was
absolutely exhausting, he literally bounced constantly, he was
really hard work and Gavin had an amazing level of patience with
him. Decent sense of humour as well, he really would laugh, a
genuine belly laugh, when Jr piped up with Mummy called you ^&%$
today, Mummy said you're not very good etc. Even knowing I
didn't rate him as a referee he never wavered from showing
warmth and patience to an inquisitive little boy who always had
100 questions for him.
Say what you like about his refereeing ability, or lack thereof,
but do not try and paint him as a snarling aggressive man. He is
far from it.
[/quote]
I think Beryl is referring to Colin !!!
#Post#: 28148--------------------------------------------------
Re: Gavin Ward - Swansea v Middlesbrough
DIR By: bmb
Date: March 7, 2021, 2:25 pm
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--- Quote from: carrowman link ---
>
>
> I think Beryl is referring to Colin !!!
>
--- End Quote ---
That would make more sense & I'd agree! ;D
Sorry Beryl, if I got the wrong end of the stick!
#Post#: 28149--------------------------------------------------
Re: Gavin Ward - Swansea v Middlesbrough
DIR By: ajb95
Date: March 7, 2021, 2:34 pm
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--- Quote from: Jevontheref link ---
>
> Everyone has their own opinion on Neil. But as a Middlesbrough
fan who can blame him for his outburst after yet another
officials decision goes against us.
>
> In the last month alone we have had
> V Blackburn - The Dael Fry incident
> And then 2 V Swansea were going to feel hard done to
>
--- End Quote ---
At EVERY club he has been at he has been the same! When is he
going to look in the mirror and think maybe it’s me!
#Post#: 28150--------------------------------------------------
Re: Gavin Ward - Swansea v Middlesbrough
DIR By: Beryl
Date: March 7, 2021, 2:35 pm
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--- Quote from: bmb link ---
>
> [quote author=carrowman link=topic=2238.msg28147#msg28147
date=1615148537]
>
> I think Beryl is referring to Colin !!!
>
--- End Quote ---
That would make more sense & I'd agree! ;D
Sorry Beryl, if I got the wrong end of the stick!
[/quote]
I dont even know who Gavin is. My posts about Warnock.
#Post#: 28151--------------------------------------------------
Re: Gavin Ward - Swansea v Middlesbrough
DIR By: Beryl
Date: March 7, 2021, 2:39 pm
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--- Quote from: Jevontheref link ---
>
> Everyone has their own opinion on Neil. But as a Middlesbrough
fan who can blame him for his outburst after yet another
officials decision goes against us.
>
> In the last month alone we have had
> V Blackburn - The Dael Fry incident
> And then 2 V Swansea were going to feel hard done to
>
--- End Quote ---
The behaviour of this manager, snarling, aggressive, to the
officials, is not acceptable regardless of referee decisions
This from a man who is a qualified ref and his father was a
football league referee?
Nothing excuses his misconduct.
#Post#: 28152--------------------------------------------------
Re: Gavin Ward - Swansea v Middlesbrough
DIR By: Jevontheref
Date: March 7, 2021, 2:47 pm
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--- Quote from: ajb95 link ---
>
> [quote author=Jevontheref link=topic=2238.msg28142#msg28142
date=1615146928]
> Everyone has their own opinion on Neil. But as a Middlesbrough
fan who can blame him for his outburst after yet another
officials decision goes against us.
>
> In the last month alone we have had
> V Blackburn - The Dael Fry incident
> And then 2 V Swansea were going to feel hard done to
>
--- End Quote ---
At EVERY club he has been at he has been the same! When is he
going to look in the mirror and think maybe it’s me!
[/quote]
I'm a firm believer of you forget the past on concentrate on the
now. Its like me going to do a game and sending a player off and
saying that's for last time too.
His past should have no say about it because decisions are going
against us
#Post#: 28153--------------------------------------------------
Re: Gavin Ward - Swansea v Middlesbrough
DIR By: bmb
Date: March 7, 2021, 3:04 pm
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--- Quote from: Beryl link ---
>
> [quote author=bmb link=topic=2238.msg28148#msg28148
date=1615148724]
> [quote author=carrowman link=topic=2238.msg28147#msg28147
date=1615148537]
>
> I think Beryl is referring to Colin !!!
>
--- End Quote ---
That would make more sense & I'd agree! ;D
Sorry Beryl, if I got the wrong end of the stick!
[/quote]
I dont even know who Gavin is. My posts about Warnock.
[/quote]
My apologies - I thought for some reason your snarling
aggressive comment was about Gavin Ward not Warnock/Colin
despite it making no sense to me logically!
#Post#: 28154--------------------------------------------------
Re: Gavin Ward - Swansea v Middlesbrough
DIR By: rustyref
Date: March 7, 2021, 3:11 pm
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--- Quote from: Beryl link ---
>
> [quote author=Jevontheref link=topic=2238.msg28142#msg28142
date=1615146928]
> Everyone has their own opinion on Neil. But as a Middlesbrough
fan who can blame him for his outburst after yet another
officials decision goes against us.
>
> In the last month alone we have had
> V Blackburn - The Dael Fry incident
> And then 2 V Swansea were going to feel hard done to
>
--- End Quote ---
This from a man who is a qualified ref and his father was a
football league referee?
Nothing excuses his misconduct.
[/quote]
No he isn't. He might have at one point been qualified 30 years
ago but that doesn't mean he is now. This is one of the biggest
myths in football that Warnock is a qualified referee.
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