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       #Post#: 27668--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lee Mason - West Brom v Brighton - topics merged
   DIR By: ajb95
       Date: February 27, 2021, 11:11 am
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       --- Quote from: BAFRA #217 link ---
       >
       > From the Guardian:
       >
       > I think what happened was as follows. I hope this clears it up
       for you:
       >
       > 1. Lee Mason gives the free-kick. Everyone gets ready for the
       free-kick.
       > 2. Lee Mason blows his whistle. Lewis Dunk takes the
       free-kick.
       > 3. Lee Mason forgets he blew his whistle.
       > 4. Lee Mason blows his whistle to tell Brighton that they can
       forget about this shot counting because he hadn’t blown his
       whistle yet.
       > 5. The shot goes in.
       > 6. Lee Mason has disallowed the goal, because he hadn’t blown
       his whistle before the free-kick was taken.
       > 7. Lee Mason is reminded that he blew his whistle before the
       free-kick was taken, and forgets that he blew his whistle
       because he hadn’t blown his whistle.
       > 8. Lee Mason allows the goal.
       > 9. Lee Mason is reminded that he blew his whistle because he
       hadn’t blown the whistle that he had blown.
       > 10. Lee Mason disallows the goal.
       >
       > The end.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I think it’s correct to say that VAR ruled out the goal
       (correctly) as Lee Mason had initially given the goal?!
       #Post#: 27669--------------------------------------------------
       Re: L MASON - West Brom v Brighton 
   DIR By: Beryl
       Date: February 27, 2021, 11:13 am
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       Reports now say the whistle was blown so referee could deal with
       pushing in wall
       Not that he blew the whistle to restart play.
       #Post#: 27670--------------------------------------------------
       Re: L MASON - West Brom v Brighton 
   DIR By: Carter
       Date: February 27, 2021, 11:23 am
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       --- Quote from: Beryl link ---
       >
       > Reports now say the whistle was blown so referee could deal
       with pushing in wall
       > Not that he blew the whistle to restart play.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       All the concievable reasons will be looked at / made up to try
       and justify what is the worst bit of officiating we have seen
       for a long time.
       In my view he blew the whistle for a quick free kick then
       imediately realised the keeper wasnt ready and blew it again,
       but then compounded it all with the fiasco afterwards.
       Why he would not do what every referee does at the ceremonial
       free kick and back away from the siyuation before restarting
       play will remain a mystery.
       #Post#: 27672--------------------------------------------------
       Re: L MASON - West Brom v Brighton 
   DIR By: Beryl
       Date: February 27, 2021, 11:26 am
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       --- Quote from: Carter link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Beryl link=topic=2215.msg27669#msg27669
       date=1614445983]
       > Reports now say the whistle was blown so referee could deal
       with pushing in wall
       > Not that he blew the whistle to restart play.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       All the concievable reasons will be looked at / made up to try
       and justify what is the worst bit of officiating we have seen
       for a long time.
       In my view he blew the whistle for a quick free kick then
       imediately realised the keeper wasnt ready and blew it again,
       but then compounded it all with the fiasco afterwards.
       Why he would not do what every referee does at the ceremonial
       free kick and back away from the siyuation before restarting
       play will remain a mystery.
       [/quote]
       I have not seen it.
       Is it even remotely possible he could have used the whistle in
       an effort to sort out a wall?   And this whistle has been
       mistaken for the,  restart of play whistle?
       #Post#: 27675--------------------------------------------------
       Re: L MASON - West Brom v Brighton 
   DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
       Date: February 27, 2021, 11:33 am
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       --- Quote from: Beryl link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Carter link=topic=2215.msg27670#msg27670
       date=1614446601]
       > [quote author=Beryl link=topic=2215.msg27669#msg27669
       date=1614445983]
       > Reports now say the whistle was blown so referee could deal
       with pushing in wall
       > Not that he blew the whistle to restart play.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       All the concievable reasons will be looked at / made up to try
       and justify what is the worst bit of officiating we have seen
       for a long time.
       In my view he blew the whistle for a quick free kick then
       imediately realised the keeper wasnt ready and blew it again,
       but then compounded it all with the fiasco afterwards.
       Why he would not do what every referee does at the ceremonial
       free kick and back away from the siyuation before restarting
       play will remain a mystery.
       [/quote]
       I have not seen it.
       Is it even remotely possible he could have used the whistle in
       an effort to sort out a wall?   And this whistle has been
       mistaken for the,  restart of play whistle?
       [/quote]
       In a nutshell, no.
       IIRC he wasn’t even looking at the wall when he blew the
       whistle.
       Plus, if that was the real reason behind why the first whistle
       went, the shambles that followed it wouldn’t reflect that it was
       an issue with the wall, with the allowing/ disallowing of the
       goal and then Big Brother getting involved (which Hooper made a
       dogs dinner of in any case).
       The chain of events don’t logically follow that scenario of the
       wall being an issue.
       #Post#: 27677--------------------------------------------------
       Re: L MASON - West Brom v Brighton 
   DIR By: Irishref1985
       Date: February 27, 2021, 11:36 am
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       What’s more laughable for me is people trying to come up with
       reasons to stand over this absolute nonsense from an official
       who is quite clearly out of his depth.
       He awarded a goal and changed his mind. It beggars belief. He
       didn’t know what he was doing and was like a rabbit trapped in
       headlights.
       He shouldn’t be involved in a Premier League game ever... simple
       #Post#: 27678--------------------------------------------------
       Re: L MASON - West Brom v Brighton 
   DIR By: guest42
       Date: February 27, 2021, 11:40 am
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       --- Quote from: TheThingFromLewes link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Beryl link=topic=2215.msg27672#msg27672
       date=1614446812]
       > [quote author=Carter link=topic=2215.msg27670#msg27670
       date=1614446601]
       > [quote author=Beryl link=topic=2215.msg27669#msg27669
       date=1614445983]
       > Reports now say the whistle was blown so referee could deal
       with pushing in wall
       > Not that he blew the whistle to restart play.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       All the concievable reasons will be looked at / made up to try
       and justify what is the worst bit of officiating we have seen
       for a long time.
       In my view he blew the whistle for a quick free kick then
       imediately realised the keeper wasnt ready and blew it again,
       but then compounded it all with the fiasco afterwards.
       Why he would not do what every referee does at the ceremonial
       free kick and back away from the siyuation before restarting
       play will remain a mystery.
       [/quote]
       I have not seen it.
       Is it even remotely possible he could have used the whistle in
       an effort to sort out a wall?   And this whistle has been
       mistaken for the,  restart of play whistle?
       [/quote]
       In a nutshell, no.
       IIRC he wasn’t even looking at the wall when he blew the
       whistle.
       Plus, if that was the real reason behind why the first whistle
       went, the shambles that followed it wouldn’t reflect that it was
       an issue with the wall, with the allowing/ disallowing of the
       goal and then Big Brother getting involved (which Hooper made a
       dogs dinner of in any case).
       The chain of events don’t logically follow that scenario of the
       wall being an issue.
       [/quote]
       Plus the standard whistle signal for “stop - I need to sort
       something out” is several short “toots” on the whistle whilst
       moving towards the incident with some kind of hand signal.
       This isn’t the whistle or signals given in that situation -
       which was the one standard blast - like the one used to restart
       play - coupled with him backing off the ball and standing still.
       #Post#: 27680--------------------------------------------------
       Re: L MASON - West Brom v Brighton 
   DIR By: ajb95
       Date: February 27, 2021, 11:47 am
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       Don’t know what all the confusion is about  8)
       Mason blew the whistle as Brighton were ready, realised the WBA
       keeper wasn’t (tough luck) and blew before then ball crossed the
       line hence the goal correctly ruled out!
       Mind you if you have 15 shots at goal and miss two penalties and
       score 0 goals do you really deserve anything?
       #Post#: 27681--------------------------------------------------
       Re: L MASON - West Brom v Brighton 
   DIR By: Mackem ref
       Date: February 27, 2021, 12:02 pm
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       Rather than make up some pathetic excuse, why not just admit
       that Mason didn’t check the keeper was ready before blowing his
       whistle, realised too late and tried to stop play but couldn’t
       stop the kick being taken. The whole incident was a farce, and I
       sincerely hope that Mason is not seen near a PL game for a long,
       long time
       #Post#: 27682--------------------------------------------------
       Re: L MASON - West Brom v Brighton 
   DIR By: Hendo
       Date: February 27, 2021, 12:08 pm
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       --- Quote from: Mackem ref link ---
       >
       > Rather than make up some pathetic excuse, why not just admit
       that Mason didn’t check the keeper was ready before blowing his
       whistle, realised too late and tried to stop play but couldn’t
       stop the kick being taken. The whole incident was a farce, and I
       sincerely hope that Mason is not seen near a PL game for a long,
       long time
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       .....or ideally ever again!
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