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Re: Sat 27th FEB – Thu 4th MAR 2021
DIR By: Whistleblower
Date: February 27, 2021, 2:27 am
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> Good games for all concerned.
> Surprised mason gets the wba v brighton game.
> Good to see attwell and pawson with games involving the big
six.
> Moss gets his usual game involving a top six side, guess only
riley knows how.
> Nice to see jones, england and madley with games too.
> Bankes might have his hands full at leeds.
>
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Moss does get a large number of high profile matches which many
on RTR find hard to understand why. I believe Moss is reckoned
by the PGMOL to be able to deliver matches safely ( whether or
not one agrees with that is another matter ) and I understand
the Clubs are always pretty content for him to referee their
matches
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Re: Sat 27th FEB – Thu 4th MAR 2021
DIR By: DublinRef
Date: February 27, 2021, 6:56 am
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--- Quote from: Whistleblower link ---
>
> [quote author=Claretman link=topic=2199.msg27489#msg27489
date=1614119533]
> Good games for all concerned.
> Surprised mason gets the wba v brighton game.
> Good to see attwell and pawson with games involving the big
six.
> Moss gets his usual game involving a top six side, guess only
riley knows how.
> Nice to see jones, england and madley with games too.
> Bankes might have his hands full at leeds.
>
--- End Quote ---
Moss does get a large number of high profile matches which many
on RTR find hard to understand why. I believe Moss is reckoned
by the PGMOL to be able to deliver matches safely ( whether or
not one agrees with that is another matter ) and I understand
the Clubs are always pretty content for him to referee their
matches
[/quote]
I'd agree with that assessment, to be fair to Moss I don't think
he has had many disasters of late. Inspecting his performances
more closely however, I feel he misses/ignores a number of
yellow card offences then issues cards for offences that don't
seem to warrant one, makes very little effort at all to engage
with the players and does the bare minimum in terms of
positioning. Safe? Probably a fair evaluation, but far from
good.
#Post#: 27629--------------------------------------------------
Re: Sat 27th FEB – Thu 4th MAR 2021
DIR By: Whistleblower
Date: February 27, 2021, 7:37 am
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I remember being told this by a senior Observer/Assessor about
Moss. He doesn't look very much like an athlete because of his
body shape rather than his body mass. However, on a sprint, he
is measured as being not among the slowest in SG1. It takes some
believing but I think it's right that his appearance is not
typical of a modern athletic referee and so that may count
against him in how he is perceived. Interestingly I have also
heard that he is a referee who does enjoy rapport with the
players but it's done in a quiet and not overtly matey way.
#Post#: 27630--------------------------------------------------
Re: Sat 27th FEB – Thu 4th MAR 2021
DIR By: DublinRef
Date: February 27, 2021, 8:26 am
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--- Quote from: Whistleblower link ---
>
> I remember being told this by a senior Observer/Assessor about
Moss. He doesn't look very much like an athlete because of his
body shape rather than his body mass. However, on a sprint, he
is measured as being not among the slowest in SG1. It takes some
believing but I think it's right that his appearance is not
typical of a modern athletic referee and so that may count
against him in how he is perceived. Interestingly I have also
heard that he is a referee who does enjoy rapport with the
players but it's done in a quiet and not overtly matey way.
>
--- End Quote ---
Very interesting insights Whistleblower, many thanks. While I do
agree that body shape might lend to a perception that his
positioning is poorer, I would be very confident that if one
were to analyse his level of penetration into the penalty are
and average distance from play they would be in the lower
rankings of SG1 referees. That said, positioning is not
everything, Marriner and Dean two fantastic referees I would
guess would also be in the lower half in terms of those
parameters.
With respect to his interactions with players I do think that at
the top level it is not only a case of making an effort to
interact with them it is also important to be seen to do so when
appropriate of course. I remember one referee coach speaking
about body language saying basically why make the point to only
one when you can make it to however many are looking at you!
#Post#: 27673--------------------------------------------------
Re: Sat 27th FEB – Thu 4th MAR 2021
DIR By: Hendo
Date: February 27, 2021, 11:29 am
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--- Quote from: Hendo link ---
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> [quote author=ryan80 link=topic=2199.msg27468#msg27468
date=1614099988]
> [quote author=TheThingFromLewes
link=topic=2199.msg27431#msg27431 date=1614082653]
> That is a huge game for Mason, very surprised he has that one.
>
> Happy with Taylor for us at Palace, and good to see Attwell
pick up a decent top six clash.
>
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Mason has refereed around 300 premier league games, a
championship final and league cup final I doubt that he is not
capable of refereeing West Brom v Brighton.
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Would that more than 1.35% of the footballing fraternity shared
your confidence. If Mason had been around at the heyday of our
top English refs in the 70s and 80s I doubt he would have got
anywhere near a PL car park, let alone pitch side. His Cup Final
appearances are not a reflection on his own ability, more a case
of a lack of quality among referees and poor management by those
at the top,
[/quote]
TOLD YOU SO!! 💩💩💩💩
#Post#: 27676--------------------------------------------------
Re: Sat 27th FEB – Thu 4th MAR 2021
DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
Date: February 27, 2021, 11:36 am
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I look forward to your thoughts on the appropriate thread Hendo!
#Post#: 27683--------------------------------------------------
Re: Sat 27th FEB – Thu 4th MAR 2021
DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
Date: February 27, 2021, 12:11 pm
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I think one official may well be replaced on Wednesday
night.....
#Post#: 27739--------------------------------------------------
Re: Sat 27th FEB – Thu 4th MAR 2021
DIR By: magpie1892
Date: February 28, 2021, 5:33 am
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Mason replaced by John Brooks today for Liverpool game,
apparently picked up an injury yesterday
#Post#: 27752--------------------------------------------------
Re: Sat 27th FEB – Thu 4th MAR 2021
DIR By: Mackem ref
Date: February 28, 2021, 8:31 am
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That seems oddly rather convenient to me.....
#Post#: 27781--------------------------------------------------
Re: Sat 27th FEB – Thu 4th MAR 2021
DIR By: Leggy
Date: February 28, 2021, 12:47 pm
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Parking the Mason controversy for a moment, how is it any way
sensible to appoint a referee as fourth official for a game
taking place the day after he has refereed a Premier League
game. The fourth official could be called up on to officiate at
any time - perhaps for the whole game if the appointed referee
tweaks a hammy in the warm up. No referee could or should be
put in the position of potentially refereeing two Premier League
games in consecutive days. If players were asked to do that
.... :o
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