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       #Post#: 27275--------------------------------------------------
       Stephen Martin, Coventry v Brentford
   DIR By: Acme Thunderer
       Date: February 21, 2021, 7:34 am
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       I must admit I was amused by Quest TV's coverage of Stephen
       Martin (and team) changing from black to purple at half time in
       the Coventry v Brentford game. The official reason for the
       change was that the black clashed with the dark colours worn by
       Brentford, which it did to an extent. But the pundits suggested
       that it was because Stephen wanted to highlight his physique and
       work in the gym during lockdown, which he could do better in
       purple than in black. I could see where they were coming from!
       ;D
       #Post#: 27287--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Stephen Martin, Coventry v Brentford
   DIR By: TVOS
       Date: February 21, 2021, 9:14 am
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       --- Quote from: Acme Thunderer link ---
       >
       > I must admit I was amused by Quest TV's coverage of Stephen
       Martin (and team) changing from black to purple at half time in
       the Coventry v Brentford game. The official reason for the
       change was that the black clashed with the dark colours worn by
       Brentford, which it did to an extent. But the pundits suggested
       that it was because Stephen wanted to highlight his physique and
       work in the gym during lockdown, which he could do better in
       purple than in black. I could see where they were coming from!
       ;D
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Brentford were in white.
       It's not the first time Mr Martin's physique has been mentioned.
       Keith Hill once commented on it after a 2-2 draw for Dale at
       Southend, which nemesis may recall.
       #Post#: 27289--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Stephen Martin, Coventry v Brentford
   DIR By: Whistleblower
       Date: February 21, 2021, 10:08 am
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       Can't say I have noticed his physique but he has a most
       idiosyncratic style of running. Prancing best describes
       it....puts one in the mind of Horse of the Year Show.
       #Post#: 27316--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Stephen Martin, Coventry v Brentford
   DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
       Date: February 21, 2021, 5:41 pm
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       --- Quote from: Whistleblower link ---
       >
       > Can't say I have noticed his physique but he has a most
       idiosyncratic style of running. Prancing best describes
       it....puts one in the mind of Horse of the Year Show.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       With some of his performances Fulham received in the
       championship in recent years from Martin, Desert Orchid would
       have been a far better spectacle in the middle!!
       #Post#: 27317--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Stephen Martin, Coventry v Brentford
   DIR By: ARF
       Date: February 21, 2021, 8:48 pm
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       He's always been big, can't imagine he's put that much more
       muscle mass on since the since of the pandemic. Sounds like yet
       another example of the media finding a way of unnecessarily
       drawing attention to the officials (something which we
       supposedly do to ourselves!)
       #Post#: 27321--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Stephen Martin, Coventry v Brentford
   DIR By: Acme Thunderer
       Date: February 22, 2021, 2:25 am
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       --- Quote from: TVOS link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Acme Thunderer link=topic=2195.msg27275#msg27275
       date=1613914444]
       > I must admit I was amused by Quest TV's coverage of Stephen
       Martin (and team) changing from black to purple at half time in
       the Coventry v Brentford game. The official reason for the
       change was that the black clashed with the dark colours worn by
       Brentford, which it did to an extent. But the pundits suggested
       that it was because Stephen wanted to highlight his physique and
       work in the gym during lockdown, which he could do better in
       purple than in black. I could see where they were coming from!
       ;D
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Brentford were in white.
       It's not the first time Mr Martin's physique has been mentioned.
       Keith Hill once commented on it after a 2-2 draw for Dale at
       Southend, which nemesis may recall.
       [/quote]
       Thanks, yes of course it was Coventry in the dark colours and
       the Brentford manager who complained leading to the change at
       half time.
       #Post#: 27326--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Stephen Martin, Coventry v Brentford
   DIR By: Whistleblower
       Date: February 22, 2021, 3:08 am
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       I haven't seen footage of the match so can't comment on the
       colour clash personally. However, this sort of thing is so
       unbelievably pathetic and so easily avoided. Surely it doesn't
       take that much nous to find out what colours the teams are
       wearing and for the match officials to pick a contrasting colour
       for themselves. When I was out regularly accompanying a friend
       to his matches the very first thing he did on arrival was to
       visit both changing rooms, look for himself at the colours and
       then chose a contrast for himself and his team. Simples !
       At the moment there are four colours for referees; black,
       yellow, purple, greeny/blue. I suppose it is possible that those
       four colours be taken by the two teams and goalkeepers but
       highly unlikely. What I have noticed is that a goalkeeper's
       jersey colour doesn't enter into the equation and I wonder why
       not ?For instance, you might often see teams playing in red and
       blue with one of the goalkeepers in black and the other in green
       and the referee goes with black. Why when there is a totally non
       clashing colour, yellow ( sorry bmb ) which he could use ? Other
       times the teams in black and white, goalkeepers in yellow and
       red and the referee goes with yellow when greeny/blue and purple
       are available. I just don't understand it.
       Whilst on colours. Is it not still the case that goalkeepers
       have to be in different colours? I'm sure I caught a game this
       weekend past on Match of the Day where both goalkeepers were in
       almost identical shades of yellow jerseys.
       Oh it's grand to have a curmudgeonly rant early on a Monday
       morning. Sets one up nicely for the week ahead  ;)
       #Post#: 27327--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Stephen Martin, Coventry v Brentford
   DIR By: TVOS
       Date: February 22, 2021, 3:12 am
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       --- Quote from: ARF link ---
       >
       > He's always been big, can't imagine he's put that much more
       muscle mass on since the since of the pandemic. Sounds like yet
       another example of the media finding a way of unnecessarily
       drawing attention to the officials (something which we
       supposedly do to ourselves!)
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I watched the highlights programme AT refers to. The presenter
       was making a very brief, light-hearted and complimentary comment
       about Mr Martin 'working out', rather than "unnecessarily
       drawing attention to the officials".
       Let's not turn it into something it wasn't.
       #Post#: 27337--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Stephen Martin, Coventry v Brentford
   DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
       Date: February 22, 2021, 4:11 am
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       --- Quote from: Whistleblower link ---
       >
       > I haven't seen footage of the match so can't comment on the
       colour clash personally. However, this sort of thing is so
       unbelievably pathetic and so easily avoided. Surely it doesn't
       take that much nous to find out what colours the teams are
       wearing and for the match officials to pick a contrasting colour
       for themselves. When I was out regularly accompanying a friend
       to his matches the very first thing he did on arrival was to
       visit both changing rooms, look for himself at the colours and
       then chose a contrast for himself and his team. Simples !
       >
       > At the moment there are four colours for referees; black,
       yellow, purple, greeny/blue. I suppose it is possible that those
       four colours be taken by the two teams and goalkeepers but
       highly unlikely. What I have noticed is that a goalkeeper's
       jersey colour doesn't enter into the equation and I wonder why
       not ?For instance, you might often see teams playing in red and
       blue with one of the goalkeepers in black and the other in green
       and the referee goes with black. Why when there is a totally non
       clashing colour, yellow ( sorry bmb ) which he could use ? Other
       times the teams in black and white, goalkeepers in yellow and
       red and the referee goes with yellow when greeny/blue and purple
       are available. I just don't understand it.
       >
       > Whilst on colours. Is it not still the case that goalkeepers
       have to be in different colours? I'm sure I caught a game this
       weekend past on Match of the Day where both goalkeepers were in
       almost identical shades of yellow jerseys.
       >
       > Oh it's grand to have a curmudgeonly rant early on a Monday
       morning. Sets one up nicely for the week ahead  ;)
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I was also surprised Man City went white yesterday at the
       Emirates, presumably because they have to wear it a certain
       number of times for sponsorship reasons. However it was a
       hideous clash with Arsenal and the white sleeves/back.
       Money talks these days....
       #Post#: 27348--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Stephen Martin, Coventry v Brentford
   DIR By: ajb95
       Date: February 22, 2021, 6:03 am
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       --- Quote from: Whistleblower link ---
       >
       > I haven't seen footage of the match so can't comment on the
       colour clash personally. However, this sort of thing is so
       unbelievably pathetic and so easily avoided. Surely it doesn't
       take that much nous to find out what colours the teams are
       wearing and for the match officials to pick a contrasting colour
       for themselves. When I was out regularly accompanying a friend
       to his matches the very first thing he did on arrival was to
       visit both changing rooms, look for himself at the colours and
       then chose a contrast for himself and his team. Simples !
       >
       > At the moment there are four colours for referees; black,
       yellow, purple, greeny/blue. I suppose it is possible that those
       four colours be taken by the two teams and goalkeepers but
       highly unlikely. What I have noticed is that a goalkeeper's
       jersey colour doesn't enter into the equation and I wonder why
       not ?For instance, you might often see teams playing in red and
       blue with one of the goalkeepers in black and the other in green
       and the referee goes with black. Why when there is a totally non
       clashing colour, yellow ( sorry bmb ) which he could use ? Other
       times the teams in black and white, goalkeepers in yellow and
       red and the referee goes with yellow when greeny/blue and purple
       are available. I just don't understand it.
       >
       > Whilst on colours. Is it not still the case that goalkeepers
       have to be in different colours? I'm sure I caught a game this
       weekend past on Match of the Day where both goalkeepers were in
       almost identical shades of yellow jerseys.
       >
       > Oh it's grand to have a curmudgeonly rant early on a Monday
       morning. Sets one up nicely for the week ahead  ;)
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       It should do but in the professional game it is something else
       they seem to do differently to us at grassroots. If we did that
       on a Saturday afternoon in front of an observer I don’t think
       they’d bother with the game!
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