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       Re: Darren Drysdale
   DIR By: ajb95
       Date: February 17, 2021, 5:24 am
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       On a side note what was with the beard Darren was sporting.
       Following Mike Dean??  ;D
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       Re: Darren Drysdale
   DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
       Date: February 17, 2021, 5:44 am
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  HTML https://youtu.be/6SIGn2scNRU
       Imagine if this happened today......
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       Re: Darren Drysdale
   DIR By: Ref Watcher
       Date: February 17, 2021, 6:16 am
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       Paul Lambert has reported Darren Drysdale to Mike Jones.  No
       indication about whether he has reported Alan Judge, or any
       other players who have behaved similarly in the past, to anyone.
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       Re: Darren Drysdale
   DIR By: nemesis
       Date: February 17, 2021, 6:53 am
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       --- Quote from: Failed Ref link ---
       >
       > As someone who is struggling with lockdown, having mental and
       social issues I do wonder what effect Covid is having on
       player's and referee's welfare and mental state. No crowds,
       strict controls, domestic lockdown etc. All this lowers the
       threshold when someone may overreact. I think we should be
       careful before we condemn anyone without knowing the full facts
       and try to gain a greater understanding of the effects of Covid
       and other external factors.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       To be honest, I think, generally, footballers and referees are
       having a better time of it than most of us.
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       Re: Darren Drysdale
   DIR By: robbie_scouse
       Date: February 17, 2021, 7:53 am
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       --- Quote from: Whistleblower link ---
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       > Now let me also say that I accept that I may well be holding a
       minority view here but I have looked at the footage about three
       times and it's something or nothing for me. I may have a
       different threshold of what constitutes aggression but I would
       say Drysdale looked more displeased than aggressive.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Totally agree.  One of the many criticisms of VAR is that they
       analyse footage by slowing it down.  Many pundits talk about
       fouls looking worse when you look at a still frame rather than
       full-speed footage.  Exactly the same here.  The photo actually
       portrays it as being much worse than the video footage which
       shows it was only a very brief coming together.
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       Re: Darren Drysdale
   DIR By: Seagull
       Date: February 17, 2021, 8:18 am
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       --- Quote from: Ref Watcher link ---
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       > Paul Lambert has reported Darren Drysdale to Mike Jones.  No
       indication about whether he has reported Alan Judge, or any
       other players who have behaved similarly in the past, to anyone.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I'm not sure that's entirely accurate. Mr. Lambert has contacted
       Mr. Jones and asked him to look at the footage but according to
       several reports, no official complaint has been made.
       #Post#: 27024--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Darren Drysdale
   DIR By: Ref Watcher
       Date: February 17, 2021, 8:32 am
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       Darren Drysdale has apologised:
  HTML https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/ipswich-town/drysdale-apologises-to-ipswich-town-7391960
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       Re: Darren Drysdale
   DIR By: PhiltheRef
       Date: February 17, 2021, 8:50 am
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       Re the 16 year old, having been sent off for OFFINABUS
       complaining about the Prem League player not being sanctioned,
       My response was to point out that I hadn't refereed the Prem
       League player
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       Re: Darren Drysdale
   DIR By: Ashington46
       Date: February 17, 2021, 9:33 am
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       --- Quote from: ajb95 link ---
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       > [quote author=rustyref link=topic=2175.msg26983#msg26983
       date=1613516891]
       > I only operated as high as National League, but there is
       absolutely an expectation that players aren't sent off for
       OFFINABUS.  After all, how many top level players are sent off
       for that offence?  Is that right, no it isn't, but it would need
       intervention starting at the top level to fix it.
       > The top level referees don't have that excuse (although they
       could still have personal issues), but those at L1 and below
       certainly do.
       >
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       I do not condone the actions of Darren and expect him to be
       disciplined and reminded of his responsibilities.
       However directly to you rustyref, Whilst I believe what you say
       I find what you say to be both ridiculous and unsurprising. It’s
       no wonder grassroots are under so much pressure when the
       professional game is obviously playing to different rules and
       interpretations.
       How can one justify to a 16 year old kid or a pub team on a
       Sunday they should be sent off for OFFINABUS when they say “but
       xxx didn’t get sent off in the premiership yesterday?”
       Is it any wonder so many referees have quit the game with an
       admission like that?
       The governing bodies have brought it upon themselves!! The
       pathetic pandering and bow down to big clubs, players and
       leagues has created this mess instead of getting a grip with a
       clear issue.
       Clear diving, cheating, confronting referees, referee blaming,
       from across the media and the like going unpunished - how long
       has it been going on?
       In that sense I have every sympathy with Darren.
       [/quote]
       This brings to mind when I was Registration Secretary for our
       local Sunday League and Sir Trevor Brooking was well involved at
       the FA and many areas were struggling for referees. I think
       that, from memory, this was around 2008 and the 'Respect'
       campaign was being mooted at the time. He was asked why the FA
       was not starting at the top to get rid of foul and abusive
       language because this would filter down to grassroots. He argued
       that the respect should start at grassroots level and this would
       then filter through to the top, in spite of the interviewer
       telling him  that the top players should act as role models.
       Having heard this, I wrote to the FA and queried why the
       campaign could not start by dealing with the role models. Their
       answer was that they could not stamp that out because it was
       considered 'Industrial Language' and that the field of play was
       their work place.
       Consequently, we were left with a situation where local referees
       were dismissing players for their language, as per the FA
       instruction, but there was absolutely nothing done at the top
       level.
       This showed to me that there was no real desire to sort anything
       out at the top level and that officials would continue to be
       vilified in one way or another should they try to implement any
       real jurisdiction.
       Now that the fans are absent, we can hear just how much
       industrial language is used and every broadcast is littered with
       apologies from commentators in case you heard any bad language!
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       Re: Darren Drysdale
   DIR By: Seagull
       Date: February 17, 2021, 10:28 am
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       Dermot Gallagher echoes my earlier comments and thoughts on this
       matter, i.e. you have to maintain self control and composure as
       a Referee, no matter what provocation may come your way (see
       lower down the article).
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