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       #Post#: 26968--------------------------------------------------
       Darren Drysdale
   DIR By: ClaretandBlue06
       Date: February 16, 2021, 3:55 pm
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       Looking at twitter tonight to see this clip from Ipswich and
       Northampton game. Looks like Judge said something to Drysdale
       and he reacted. Surely Judge should have been sent off if that
       was the case.
  HTML https://twitter.com/charlescommins/status/1361781160657969160?s=21
       #Post#: 26970--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Darren Drysdale
   DIR By: Mackem ref
       Date: February 16, 2021, 4:09 pm
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       That really doesn’t look good at all. Images I have seen of the
       incident clearly show an aggressive look on Drysdale’s face - it
       is very difficult as a referee at times not to react! The
       question for me is if something has been said to provoke such a
       reaction, why was the player not dismissed for foul and abusive?
       Unfortunately, a culture of players being allowed to get away
       with appalling behaviour means dismissals for FAL are too few
       and far between!
       #Post#: 26974--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Darren Drysdale
   DIR By: ClaretandBlue06
       Date: February 16, 2021, 4:23 pm
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       That’s the question I asked myself! I agree with what you’ve
       said Mackem but there’s only a certain amount a human can take.
       Players get away with a lot these days and this only goes down
       to grassroots
       #Post#: 26976--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Darren Drysdale
   DIR By: Mackem ref
       Date: February 16, 2021, 4:32 pm
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       I agree, but why not dismiss the player? Player behaviour will
       only change when referees at the top level (PL and EFL) decide
       to take a stand and force the authorities to act! It’s gone too
       far to take the grassroots up approach they were hoping for with
       the respect program and the sin bins etc.
       #Post#: 26982--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Darren Drysdale
   DIR By: ex-ref
       Date: February 16, 2021, 5:00 pm
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       This was quite bizarre. A very poor game which Mr Drysdale
       refereed well with no questioning of his decisions, 3 or 4 YCs
       all correct. Mid way during the second half, Mr Drysdale's
       mannerisms changed. I would compare him to a policeman,
       somewhere in Europe, who controls traffic with a whistle and
       dramatic hand signals.
       Judge of Ipswich went down in the box and, not getting the pen,
       obviously said something that incensed Mr Drysdale. There are
       close up photos on twitter of Mr Drysdale's showing, in my
       opinion, some aggression and with his head almost, if not, in
       contact with that of Alan Judge. If that had been two players
       there would have been a red card. Players had to separate Mr
       Drysdale from Judge.
       Moments later another Ipswich player, Flynn Downes, was
       penalised for a foul and shown a YC then theatrically a red,
       presumably for what was said in his reaction. Could this be any
       worse that what Judge must have said!
       As I say, a bizarre end to a truly awful game of football.
       #Post#: 26983--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Darren Drysdale
   DIR By: rustyref
       Date: February 16, 2021, 5:08 pm
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       I only operated as high as National League, but there is
       absolutely an expectation that players aren't sent off for
       OFFINABUS.  After all, how many top level players are sent off
       for that offence?  Is that right, no it isn't, but it would need
       intervention starting at the top level to fix it.
       What people forget though is that referees are human beings.
       What Darren has done here doesn't look good, I totally accept
       that, but we don't know what his state of mind was like.  What
       had happened earlier in the game, but also had he experienced
       problems at work earlier in the day, has he had family problems,
       any bad news, etc.  No one knows, and whilst a player behaving
       like this towards a referee would barely get any press, the
       other way round it is big news and totally unacceptable.
       I will openly admit that on a small number of occasions I
       reacted on the pitch to situations far from professionally, and
       it was always when I was annoyed for another reason.  I'm pretty
       sure they were always midweek games where I'd done a full day at
       work, and for me that is just human nature.  If you've had a row
       with a supplier, customer, your manager, or generally been
       distracted, just a few hours before kick off it will be
       difficult for that to be completely removed from your mind.  The
       top level referees don't have that excuse (although they could
       still have personal issues), but those at L1 and below certainly
       do.
       #Post#: 26984--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Darren Drysdale
   DIR By: robbie_scouse
       Date: February 16, 2021, 5:11 pm
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       I’m no referee “sympathiser” nor do I know Mr Drysdale from
       Adam. I’ve already seen enough on Twitter, however, to know this
       Is going to explode. For example, Sky Sports have already
       “tweeted” it.
       Perspective Is needed. If a player had done what the referee did
       and got sent off there would be uproar and rightfully so. It
       wasn’t that bad.
       The fact it is a referee makes it’s unusual and so increased
       scrutiny and impending social media hyperbole. Until, or indeed
       if, anything comes out in the open we may never know what
       triggered this.
       Referees, players  (including Premier League millionaires) etc
       are all human. We all have that point when things can get on top
       of us and in that split second can lose the control of our
       emotions.
       There may well be some mitigating factors that caused Mr
       Drysdale to react as he did tonight but then again there may not
       be. One thing is for sure though, in the next couple of days he
       will be scrutinised and publicised by both the traditional and
       social media.
       Complete guess but say he has referred 1,000 games at various
       levels in his career - for him to be officiating at the level he
       is I would say there’s a decent chance this is the only time
       something like this has happened.
       I hope he gets the support he will need over the coming days,
       weeks and months.
       #Post#: 26989--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Darren Drysdale
   DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
       Date: February 16, 2021, 5:32 pm
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       Didn’t big Phil Dowd do a similar thing to Cattermole of
       Sunderland many years ago?
       #Post#: 26991--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Darren Drysdale
   DIR By: Irishref1985
       Date: February 16, 2021, 5:55 pm
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  HTML https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11707/12220393/referee-darren-drysdale-squares-up-to-ipswichs-alan-judge-during-game
       Well Judge has a point.... looks a penalty to me.... the
       reaction from the referee is unacceptable.
       #Post#: 26992--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Darren Drysdale
   DIR By: DublinRef
       Date: February 16, 2021, 6:32 pm
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       --- Quote from: Charlieboy link ---
       >
       > What I’d like to see is the refereeing fraternity to rally
       behind him here , any opinions on his refereeing are IMO
       irrelevant now , I hope he gets all the support he needs .
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I understand that point of view however IMO that reaction is
       totally unacceptable as a referee you simply can't react in a
       physically aggressive manner. It looks awful when players have
       to intervene between a referee and a player like that. I have
       sympathy for the referee as I'm sure he deeply regrets what was
       a momentary lapse in judgement and a human reaction but I can't
       defend or condone his actions.
       In the same breath though players behaviour towards referees is,
       in general, appalling. Comparisons with rugby are always drawn
       in these incidents and I think that until, like in that sport,
       the authorities allow for referees to properly apply sanctions
       for players inappropriate behaviour towards them nothing will
       improve.
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