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Re: M DEAN - Fulham v West Ham
DIR By: Ref Fan
Date: February 6, 2021, 1:56 pm
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> . What I mean by that is the fact that two PL referees felt it
was a red card suggests to me that it meets some criteria that
they are supposed to follow. Hard to know though really, for me
a bad call I can't really understand it.
>
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Reminded me a little of when Taylor sent off Martial for that
little tap on the face (but no sanction against the provocateur)
in the United v Spurs game.
The decision, presumably for VC, was deemed correct by many on
here, so I'm slightly reluctant to be critical of Dean. As you
say, perhaps it met some criteria or dictat.
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Re: M DEAN - Fulham v West Ham
DIR By: ajb95
Date: February 6, 2021, 1:58 pm
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All these people on here blaming Mason is baffling! The VAR
recommends a OFR. The decision ultimately lies with the onfield
official.
2 big errors: one by Mike Dean to send him off and 1 by Mitrovic
who’s pathetic rolling around and theatrics have forced the
referee into making a decision. Mike Dean can’t help himself can
he??
This is the problem with players cheating and the administrators
doing nothing about it!! Until the authorities get a grip with
this and referees stop giving silly free kicks for the smallest
bit of contact then the game will continue down this awful sorry
path!
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Re: M DEAN - Fulham v West Ham
DIR By: Jackinthebox
Date: February 6, 2021, 2:02 pm
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When a referee goes to the monitor I feel as they will side with
the VAR. I can only recall two occasions this season where a
referee has gone to the monitor and stuck to his original
Decison. Graham Scott in the spurs v Brighton game and Andre
Marriner in the Fulham v Liverpool game. All in all i think both
Mason and Dean have had bad weeks both on the field and in the
VAR booth.
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Re: M DEAN - Fulham v West Ham
DIR By: AFAref
Date: February 6, 2021, 2:07 pm
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> 1 by Mitrovic who’s pathetic rolling around and theatrics have
forced the referee into making a decision. Mike Dean can’t help
himself can he??
>
> This is the problem with players cheating and the
administrators doing nothing about it!! Until the authorities
get a grip with this and referees stop giving silly free kicks
for the smallest bit of contact then the game will continue down
this awful sorry path!
>
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I've just had this very conversation with a West Ham pal of
mine. If Martial and Mitrovic don't fall over then there is no
decision to make. Dean public enemy number one with all the
pundits, but they don't say anything about their ex mates
cheating and conning referees.
However, we as referees have to take some of the blame as how
many times do we get told "no surprises" or "if (s)he doesn't go
down I'm not giving a penalty" if we are an AR
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Re: M DEAN - Fulham v West Ham
DIR By: AFAref
Date: February 6, 2021, 2:12 pm
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>
> It's an absolute farce. Just take a look on Twitter and see
what the punters think.
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Dean could have a perfect game, and twitter followers would
slate him. They start before the game kicks off.
Football, at the highest level, is now a different game to what
we all started watching. The Club World Cup is showing the way
it is going. Hopefully the punters will stop going and start to
switch off and go back down to the lower levels, when we can
resume spectating, where the game we grew to love still gets
played
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Re: M DEAN - Fulham v West Ham
DIR By: sastley
Date: February 6, 2021, 2:13 pm
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Mike Dean did appear to say I have no option, but he did. He is
the referee and he should have enough bottle after going to the
screen to say VAR is wrong. Is it not time to show Lee Mason the
door, he is not good enough.
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Re: M DEAN - Fulham v West Ham
DIR By: AFAref
Date: February 6, 2021, 2:16 pm
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> Mike Dean did appear to say I have no option
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After he said, "he's used (an/his) elbow"
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Re: M DEAN - Fulham v West Ham
DIR By: marcwhu
Date: February 6, 2021, 2:20 pm
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HTML https://twitter.com/sammatterface/status/1358137054039863314?s=21
“ Premier League confirm ultimately Mike Dean felt that it was
violent conduct with the elbow to Mitrovic, subjective decision
that he went to look at.
It’s a game of opinions.
In this case Mike Dean’s differs with most watchers!”
Not sure the Premier League are helping themselves coming out
with things like this. Doesn’t help Mike Dean moving forward as
will have players and managers and fans questioning every
decision he makes even with 99% of them being correct
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Re: M DEAN - Fulham v West Ham
DIR By: guest42
Date: February 6, 2021, 2:21 pm
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--- Quote from: Jackinthebox link ---
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> When a referee goes to the monitor I feel as they will side
with the VAR. I can only recall two occasions this season where
a referee has gone to the monitor and stuck to his original
Decison. Graham Scott in the spurs v Brighton game and Andre
Marriner in the Fulham v Liverpool game. All in all i think both
Mason and Dean have had bad weeks both on the field and in the
VAR booth.
>
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It’s either take the easy way out, swallow the pride and go with
the decision that VAR is telling you about and let the FA deal
with it when the club inevitably appeals - or throw your
colleagues under the bus by not siding with them.
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Re: M DEAN - Fulham v West Ham
DIR By: sastley
Date: February 6, 2021, 2:30 pm
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Under the bus
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