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       #Post#: 24901--------------------------------------------------
       Man Utd v Wolves
   DIR By: Hendo
       Date: December 29, 2020, 4:50 pm
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       Open letter to Jon Moss
       Dear Mr Moss,
       Please can you explain for us decent, honest fans where those 5
       extra minutes came from? Maybe Mrs Moss needs to buy you a new
       watch in the post Christmas sales.
       Sincerely,
       Confused Football Fans
       Edited to add which UTD as requested! bmb
       #Post#: 24902--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Utd v Wolves
   DIR By: rustyref
       Date: December 29, 2020, 5:14 pm
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       --- Quote from: Hendo link ---
       >
       > Open letter to Jon Moss
       >
       > Dear Mr Moss,
       > Please can you explain for us decent, honest fans where those
       5 extra minutes came from? Maybe Mrs Moss needs to buy you a new
       watch in the post Christmas sales.
       > Sincerely,
       > Confused Football Fans
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Bit of an odd post, there were substitutions, injuries, and a
       VAR check that took at least a minute to complete.  And in any
       case, the goal was scored after 3 minutes and there certainly
       had to be that much added.
       #Post#: 24904--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Utd v Wolves
   DIR By: Irishref1985
       Date: December 29, 2020, 6:54 pm
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       And not forgetting the Wolves keeper time wasting for which he
       was cautioned for.. A good performance from Mr Moss as well..
       #Post#: 24905--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Utd v Wolves
   DIR By: LateTackle
       Date: December 29, 2020, 7:47 pm
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       On a point of order, could people who start a thread clarify
       which teams are playing.  There are lots of Uniteds. ::)
       #Post#: 24908--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Utd v Wolves
   DIR By: ajb95
       Date: December 30, 2020, 2:24 am
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       --- Quote from: rustyref link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Hendo link=topic=2044.msg24901#msg24901
       date=1609282233]
       > Open letter to Jon Moss
       >
       > Dear Mr Moss,
       > Please can you explain for us decent, honest fans where those
       5 extra minutes came from? Maybe Mrs Moss needs to buy you a new
       watch in the post Christmas sales.
       > Sincerely,
       > Confused Football Fans
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Bit of an odd post, there were substitutions, injuries, and a
       VAR check that took at least a minute to complete.  And in any
       case, the goal was scored after 3 minutes and there certainly
       had to be that much added.
       [/quote]
       Agreed. I thought there should have been at least 7 mins
       Edited to fix the quote thingamajigga. bmb
       #Post#: 24910--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Utd v Wolves
   DIR By: Claretman
       Date: December 30, 2020, 5:04 am
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       --- Quote from: Hendo link ---
       >
       > Open letter to Jon Moss
       >
       > Dear Mr Moss,
       > Please can you explain for us decent, honest fans where those
       5 extra minutes came from? Maybe Mrs Moss needs to buy you a new
       watch in the post Christmas sales.
       > Sincerely,
       > Confused Football Fans
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       On another thread it was stated that referees dont stop their
       watches during delays to the game in the uk top flight,
       therefore until Independent time keepers are introduced, we will
       never know what is the correct amount of stoppage time to play.
       Mr moss, apart from getting in the path of the ball a few times,
       had a good game and i thought the stoppage time allowed was
       about correct.
       #Post#: 24945--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Utd v Wolves
   DIR By: bruntyboy
       Date: December 30, 2020, 4:27 pm
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       --- Quote from: Claretman link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Hendo link=topic=2044.msg24901#msg24901
       date=1609282233]
       > Open letter to Jon Moss
       >
       > Dear Mr Moss,
       > Please can you explain for us decent, honest fans where those
       5 extra minutes came from? Maybe Mrs Moss needs to buy you a new
       watch in the post Christmas sales.
       > Sincerely,
       > Confused Football Fans
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       On another thread it was stated that referees dont stop their
       watches during delays to the game in the uk top flight,
       therefore until Independent time keepers are introduced, we will
       never know what is the correct amount of stoppage time to play.
       Mr moss, apart from getting in the path of the ball a few times,
       had a good game and i thought the stoppage time allowed was
       about correct.
       [/quote]
       Why didn't play stop when the ball hit him?
       #Post#: 24961--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Utd v Wolves
   DIR By: Toprefm
       Date: December 31, 2020, 3:28 am
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       --- Quote from: bruntyboy link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Claretman link=topic=2044.msg24910#msg24910
       date=1609326255]
       > [quote author=Hendo link=topic=2044.msg24901#msg24901
       date=1609282233]
       > Open letter to Jon Moss
       >
       > Dear Mr Moss,
       > Please can you explain for us decent, honest fans where those
       5 extra minutes came from? Maybe Mrs Moss needs to buy you a new
       watch in the post Christmas sales.
       > Sincerely,
       > Confused Football Fans
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       On another thread it was stated that referees dont stop their
       watches during delays to the game in the uk top flight,
       therefore until Independent time keepers are introduced, we will
       never know what is the correct amount of stoppage time to play.
       Mr moss, apart from getting in the path of the ball a few times,
       had a good game and i thought the stoppage time allowed was
       about correct.
       [/quote]
       Why didn't play stop when the ball hit him?
       [/quote]
       Because it probably did not meet the following criteria.
       If the ball touches the referee or another match official and
       goes into the goal, or results in a change of possession or a
       promising attack, a dropped ball will be awarded.
       #Post#: 24968--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Utd v Wolves
   DIR By: ARF
       Date: December 31, 2020, 5:22 am
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       --- Quote from: Toprefm link ---
       >
       > [quote author=bruntyboy link=topic=2044.msg24945#msg24945
       date=1609367266]
       > [quote author=Claretman link=topic=2044.msg24910#msg24910
       date=1609326255]
       > [quote author=Hendo link=topic=2044.msg24901#msg24901
       date=1609282233]
       > Open letter to Jon Moss
       >
       > Dear Mr Moss,
       > Please can you explain for us decent, honest fans where those
       5 extra minutes came from? Maybe Mrs Moss needs to buy you a new
       watch in the post Christmas sales.
       > Sincerely,
       > Confused Football Fans
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       On another thread it was stated that referees dont stop their
       watches during delays to the game in the uk top flight,
       therefore until Independent time keepers are introduced, we will
       never know what is the correct amount of stoppage time to play.
       Mr moss, apart from getting in the path of the ball a few times,
       had a good game and i thought the stoppage time allowed was
       about correct.
       [/quote]
       Why didn't play stop when the ball hit him?
       [/quote]
       Because it probably did not meet the following criteria.
       If the ball touches the referee or another match official and
       goes into the goal, or results in a change of possession or a
       promising attack, a dropped ball will be awarded.
       [/quote]
       Precisely - both times I saw him get hit by the ball the team
       retained possession, but neither resulted in a promising attack.
       #Post#: 24982--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Utd v Wolves
   DIR By: Seagull
       Date: December 31, 2020, 8:38 am
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       --- Quote from: Claretman link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Hendo link=topic=2044.msg24901#msg24901
       date=1609282233]
       > Open letter to Jon Moss
       >
       > Dear Mr Moss,
       > Please can you explain for us decent, honest fans where those
       5 extra minutes came from? Maybe Mrs Moss needs to buy you a new
       watch in the post Christmas sales.
       > Sincerely,
       > Confused Football Fans
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       On another thread it was stated that referees dont stop their
       watches during delays to the game in the uk top flight,
       therefore until Independent time keepers are introduced, we will
       never know what is the correct amount of stoppage time to play.
       Mr moss, apart from getting in the path of the ball a few times,
       had a good game and i thought the stoppage time allowed was
       about correct.
       [/quote]
       If PL & EFL Referees are not stopping the watch for delays
       during the game, then they should be, in my opinion. If they did
       so, I agree that the "stoppage time" would be more accurate than
       the "guesstimate" we have now. I especially dislike the
       well-worn tactic of substitutions being made after the amount of
       added time has been announced, all designed, of course, to use
       up time unfairly. If the teams knew the watch had stopped and
       they had nothing to gain, it might stop them from doing it,
       barring genuine cases of injury, of course.
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