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       #Post#: 24925--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Harrogate V Carlisle
   DIR By: highfieldlatic
       Date: December 30, 2020, 10:46 am
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       --- Quote from: Leggy link ---
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       > Can't see what the problem was, played in worse!  ;)
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       but it was water polo!!!
       #Post#: 24932--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Harrogate V Carlisle
   DIR By: Readingfan
       Date: December 30, 2020, 12:37 pm
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       I wonder if the lack of fans has any impact on referee
       decisions? It obviously doesn't make a pitch playable but some
       of the wider concerns about fan safety/experience aren't so
       relevant and the desire to give fans, especially away ones
       travelling a long distance, notice is not such a big issue so
       perhaps a referee might be slightly more willing to give a game
       a chance.
       #Post#: 24955--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Harrogate V Carlisle
   DIR By: TVOS
       Date: December 30, 2020, 5:59 pm
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       --- Quote from: Readingfan link ---
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       > I wonder if the lack of fans has any impact on referee
       decisions? It obviously doesn't make a pitch playable but some
       of the wider concerns about fan safety/experience aren't so
       relevant and the desire to give fans, especially away ones
       travelling a long distance, notice is not such a big issue so
       perhaps a referee might be slightly more willing to give a game
       a chance.
       >
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       Possibly but there were Harrogate fans in attendance at their
       game.
       #Post#: 24970--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Harrogate V Carlisle
   DIR By: guest42
       Date: December 31, 2020, 6:09 am
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       Worst thing is - Harrogate were forced to pay a £200,000 bill in
       the summer ripping up their 3G pitch to put a natural grass one
       back in on the orders of the EFL.
       #Post#: 24975--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Harrogate V Carlisle
   DIR By: nemesis
       Date: December 31, 2020, 6:48 am
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       Is there any difference between a referee's fee (and other
       officials) for a postponed match and that for an abandoned one ?
       Not suggesting any impropriety - just curious !
       #Post#: 24980--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Harrogate V Carlisle
   DIR By: Claretman
       Date: December 31, 2020, 8:13 am
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       --- Quote from: Acme Thunderer link ---
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       > Yes, that's the one, and it's good that this farce was
       recorded for posterity. Seriously, although things obviously got
       worse in the 5-6 minutes in which play was possible, there was
       no way the match should have started, with conditions on the
       nearside being unplayable from the start. A classic and thanks
       SuffolkRef for locating it.
       >
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       Brings back memories of the odd occasions grimsby played
       northern intermediate league games at blundell park,
       They usually played at the now cleethorpes town fc ground on
       cleethorpes rd, For a short guy i was always knee deep in mud on
       the line at the findus stand side of the ground.
       That stand was aptly named, most people froze in that stand esp
       in a ne gale off the sea.
       #Post#: 24981--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Harrogate V Carlisle
   DIR By: Seagull
       Date: December 31, 2020, 8:26 am
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       --- Quote from: nemesis link ---
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       >
       > Is there any difference between a referee's fee (and other
       officials) for a postponed match and that for an abandoned one?
       Not suggesting any impropriety - just curious!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I was only ever involved in two abandoned matches and in each
       case, the full match fee and expenses were paid willingly. I can
       remember travelling to Welling as Linesman for a game and, on
       reaching the ground, being advised that the pitch was unplayable
       and the game had been postponed. We received our expenses as the
       club was unable to prevent us from travelling (pre-mobile phone
       days) but not our match fees. I don't ever recall being paid for
       local league games which I postponed in advance following a
       pitch inspection.
       #Post#: 24983--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Harrogate V Carlisle
   DIR By: ARF
       Date: December 31, 2020, 9:44 am
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       --- Quote from: nemesis link ---
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       >
       > Is there any difference between a referee's fee (and other
       officials) for a postponed match and that for an abandoned one ?
       Not suggesting any impropriety - just curious !
       >
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       Postponed - mileage + half fee
       Abandoned - full fee + mileage
       #Post#: 24986--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Harrogate V Carlisle
   DIR By: rustyref
       Date: December 31, 2020, 11:29 am
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       --- Quote from: ARF link ---
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       > [quote author=nemesis link=topic=2043.msg24975#msg24975
       date=1609418884]
       >
       > Is there any difference between a referee's fee (and other
       officials) for a postponed match and that for an abandoned one ?
       Not suggesting any impropriety - just curious !
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Postponed - mileage + half fee
       Abandoned - full fee + mileage
       [/quote]
       Unless it is postponed before you arrive at the ground, hence
       why you never answer your phone en-route ... [emoji2]
       #Post#: 24995--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Harrogate V Carlisle
   DIR By: Jevontheref
       Date: December 31, 2020, 6:40 pm
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       --- Quote from: nemesis link ---
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       >
       > Is there any difference between a referee's fee (and other
       officials) for a postponed match and that for an abandoned one ?
       Not suggesting any impropriety - just curious !
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I don't know about FL but In most of my leagues a postponed game
       is half fee with full expenses. A Abandoned game is full fee and
       full expenses.
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